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04-01-08, 12:37
[youtube]_ZKzt9J24nE[youtube]

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04-01-08, 12:38
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04-01-08, 12:41
Oghul bala! Yaraysiz ukam!!! Ablajan talimighan adem amerikada az qalghan. Yahshi jawap boluptu.

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04-01-08, 13:47
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Rabiye ana, kordunguzmu? Mana mushundaq oghul balilar sizning arqingizda turidu. Ablajandek itlar qawap-qawap yolda chushup qalidu.

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04-01-08, 14:52
Rabiye ana, kordunguzmu? Mana mushundaq oghul balilar sizning arqingizda turidu. Ablajandek itlar qawap-qawap yolda chushup qalidu.


Bu inimizning simasidinla uyghur yigitlirige has jesurluq yighip turuptu, amma A . Laylining awazi , teleti ademni qorqutidiken . Biz kichik waqtimizda hitay ishligen kinolarda dushmenlerni ularning sozlishidin, chach pasonliridin, kiyinishidin arapla bu dushmen dep tonuwalattuq. Abla del ashu asanla toniwalidighan obrazlardin biriken .

Unregistered
04-01-08, 16:11
Siz Tilini chayniwalghan Inekke oxshash sirk oyni körsetmeng biz sizni epu qilmaymiz QULAQTIN ot chiqirip Aghiz burningiz Qizilteleydu ! siz otbilen oynashmang !




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Unregistered
04-01-08, 16:42
Essalmu Eleykum, Qerindashlar,

Men bu meydanni asasen korup turiwatqanlardin biri, Ablajan digen kim korup baqmighan biraq bu meydanda uning bezi maqalilirini we youtube diki bir qanche she'irini anglidim.

Bu meydanda uni ochuqtin-ochuq haqaretleshning anche toghra bolmighanlighini korup turuptimen. Mening hes qilishimche, Ablajanmu bir Uighur soyer ot-yurek yash, uning ismini atap, kok bayraqning aldida turiwelip uni haqaretleshning ozi, "inqilap qilip", "ha'in"larni tazlash bolmaydu.

Uning burunqi maqalilirida, men hech-bir Rabiye animizgha qarshi meydanda soz qilghinini kormidim. Sizning bundaq nutuqliringizni youtubeda elan qilishingiz, ZIDDIYET PEYDA QILISHmu qandaq?

Unregistered
04-01-08, 16:53
bek toghra gep qipsiz janabi aliliri, amma bu toghra gepni emdi diginingiz qiziq. Ablajan 10 tal vidioni qoyup, milli herkitimizge, rabiye hedimizge uchuqtin-uchuq haqaret qilghanda dimiginingiz ejeplinerlik. sizche Ablajan Uyghur soyer, ot yurek yash iken, amma Rabiye animiz nimiken? sizning sel kalingiz aylinip qaptu, toghra tepekur qilish ixtidaringizni yoqutup qoyghandek qilisiz. intayin waxtida, del jayida berilgen jawap boptu. bu ot yurek qerindishimizni tebrikleymen. bu Ablajan uchun bir ders bolghusi.



Essalmu Eleykum, Qerindashlar,

Men bu meydanni asasen korup turiwatqanlardin biri, Ablajan digen kim korup baqmighan biraq bu meydanda uning bezi maqalilirini we youtube diki bir qanche she'irini anglidim.

Bu meydanda uni ochuqtin-ochuq haqaretleshning anche toghra bolmighanlighini korup turuptimen. Mening hes qilishimche, Ablajanmu bir Uighur soyer ot-yurek yash, uning ismini atap, kok bayraqning aldida turiwelip uni haqaretleshning ozi, "inqilap qilip", "ha'in"larni tazlash bolmaydu.

Uning burunqi maqalilirida, men hech-bir Rabiye animizgha qarshi meydanda soz qilghinini kormidim. Sizning bundaq nutuqliringizni youtubeda elan qilishingiz, ZIDDIYET PEYDA QILISHmu qandaq?

Unregistered
04-01-08, 17:33
Essalmu Eleykum, Qerindashlar,

Men bu meydanni asasen korup turiwatqanlardin biri, Ablajan digen kim korup baqmighan biraq bu meydanda uning bezi maqalilirini we youtube diki bir qanche she'irini anglidim.

Bu meydanda uni ochuqtin-ochuq haqaretleshning anche toghra bolmighanlighini korup turuptimen. Mening hes qilishimche, Ablajanmu bir Uighur soyer ot-yurek yash, uning ismini atap, kok bayraqning aldida turiwelip uni haqaretleshning ozi, "inqilap qilip", "ha'in"larni tazlash bolmaydu.

Uning burunqi maqalilirida, men hech-bir Rabiye animizgha qarshi meydanda soz qilghinini kormidim. Sizning bundaq nutuqliringizni youtubeda elan qilishingiz, ZIDDIYET PEYDA QILISHmu qandaq?
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men sanga shuni bildürüp qoymaqchi menki... bilip qoy! men özem dihqan uyghur, Abla naman, Rabiye Anamni haqaretlise, bir eghiz zuwaning chiqmaydu... ejep qerindishim uyghur oghli jawap qaytursa siningche ZIDDIYWT PEYDA QILGHAN bolamdiken? sendek dallallar özini ziyali-siyasetchi jaghlap "qelem köresh" qilishsang, men Rabiye Anam üchün senlerge "ELEM KÖRESH" qilishqa her zaman tey'yar men Huda halisa....


Dihqan Uyghur

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04-01-08, 17:47
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men sanga shuni bildürüp qoymaqchi menki... bilip qoy! men özem dihqan uyghur, Abla naman, Rabiye Anamni haqaretlise, bir eghiz zuwaning chiqmaydu... ejep qerindishim uyghur oghli jawap qaytursa siningche ZIDDIYWT PEYDA QILGHAN bolamdiken? sendek dallallar özini ziyali-siyasetchi jaghlap "qelem köresh" qilishsang, men Rabiye Anam üchün senlerge "ELEM KÖRESH" qilishqa her zaman tey'yar men Huda halisa....


Dihqan Uyghur

yahxi jawap boluptughu bu ?

Unregistered
04-01-08, 18:11
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esselam helqim

Ablajan bolsa beliqqa su yuqmigandek gep yuqmaydighan, qeri kaligha tayaq ötmigendek gepmu ötmeydighan nerse bolghanlighi üchün bu uninggha ötkidek jawap boptu.

Rastinla Abla özi digendek Hitay qanunni shundaqla Helqarliq qanun oqughan, bilgen adem bolsa Animiz Rabiye hanimgha eqil ögütimen dimestin, yaki bolmisa qilghan ishini "andaq qilsingiz bolatti...", "mundaq qilishingiz kirek..." dedim dep Internet sehipiliridiki pit bazirigha salmastin özi Helqara qanunlar boyiche Uyghur Musteqilliq Herikiti we Sherqiy Türkistan dölitining eslige kelishi üchün Hanim qilghan ishlarning onden bir qismini qilip beqip undin keyin gepi bolsa qilsun.

Hanim "Musteqilliq" dewatidu we deydu. Musteqilliq üchün küresh qiliwatidu we qilidu. Men Uyghur deydighan her bir kishi Hanimning dewasini destekleshtin bash tartidiken u özidiki qanning Uyghur qeni bolmastin bashqiliridin quyulghan qan ikenligini his qilsun.

Unregistered
04-01-08, 18:30
Ablajan,

Uyghur teshkilatlirini uni qilalmidi, buni qilalmidi dep waysighandin sizningmu on terektur tartalmighudek CHONG isimlik bir teshkilatingiz bolghandikin ular qilalmighanni siz qiliwersingiz bolmidimu? U teshkilatingizni qurghan 3.5 yildin biri bashqa Uyghur teshkilatlar ustidin mushuningdek gheywet qilishtin bashqa bir ishmu qilip baqtinglarmu? Sizge hudayim gep qilidighangha YOGHAN bir eghizdin bashqa hechnerse bermigen bolsa kirek. Quruq geptin bashqa hech ish qolingizdin kelmeydiken. Eger kelse, qeni merhemet, u hittaylarni wetendin qoghlap chiqirip "olikini tongguzgha tashlap bering." Sizni hechkim tutiwalmaydu.

I.M : MEKKE
04-01-08, 21:04
Bu kimmetlik ukimiz kim o ?

Ablajan Leylinaman ependige jawap sozi sozligen bu ukimizni tughkan anisini tapkan dadisini ALLAH rehmet kilsun,AMIN.

tokkuz minotlik video sozini anglap kop tesirlendim,we xehsiyetige kizzikip kaldim, eger bilidighanlar bir menilik bolmisa bu ukimizning ismi xeriplirini we kiskiqe terjume halini yezip koyghan bolsanglar,

Unregistered
05-01-08, 07:19
u ademmu xata gep qilmaydikenghu ?
orunluq we etrapliq pikir.

pikir
05-01-08, 07:46
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Rabiye xanim we DUQ ning sadiq qollughuchisi bolush suputum bilen yuqarqi nutuqning mezmonigha qarita hech bir etirazim yoq, emma mening diqqitimni jelip qilghan bir nuxta bar, siyasi sehnimizde tuyuqsiz peyda bolghan bu yigitke bu salahiyetni kim berdi ? unung DUQ we Rabiye xanimning namida soz qilish yaki murajet elan qilish hoqoqi barmu ? eger Ablajangha reddiye berishke toghra kelse resmiy teshkilat namidin yaki dawa sepimizde sinaqtin otken we kozge korungen siyasi paaliyetchilirimiz teripidin berilishi lazim, Rabiye xanim we DUQ ning shereplik namini hechkim suyistimal qilmasliqi kerek, keyinki mezgillerdin buyan Rabiye xanimni qollighan qiyapetke kiriwelip dawa sepimizdiki bezi shexislerge hujum qilidighan, haqaretleydighan we tillaydighanlar kopuyup ketti ( buyerde men yuqarqi nutuqni sozligen yigitni kozde tutmidim ), biz bundaq insanlargha meydan hazirlap bermeslikimiz lazim, bashqilargha pikir bergende yaki tenqitligende Rabiye xanim we DUQ ning namini qollinishtin saqlinishimiz kerek, bolmisa kuresh sepimizde jiddi ixtilaplar otturigha chiqidu ...

Unregistered
05-01-08, 13:19
biz bundaq insanlargha meydan hazirlap bermeslikimiz lazim, ...

ependim sizning yuqarqi gepingiz toghra, amma özini qanunchi digen Abla mushundaq ishlargha meydan hazirlap bermise bundaq vijdanliq oghlanlar bu heterlik ochuq meydangha chiqipmu qalmasidi.

Unregistered
05-01-08, 13:28
Bu inimizning simasidinla uyghur yigitlirige has jesurluq yighip turuptu, amma A . Laylining awazi , teleti ademni qorqutidiken . Biz kichik waqtimizda hitay ishligen kinolarda dushmenlerni ularning sozlishidin, chach pasonliridin, kiyinishidin arapla bu dushmen dep tonuwalattuq. Abla del ashu asanla toniwalidighan obrazlardin biriken .

Bu yigit Rabiya Kadirni bilmaydu ham tonimaydu.Likin rabiya kadirning kilghan inkilapliri, uzining halki uqun kanqilik kurban beriwatkinini bilidu.
Yaraysiz. sizdak ballarning koplap qekishini umut kilimiz.
You are the man of the week!!!!!!!
what a speech it was!

Unregistered
05-01-08, 13:31
Kizik ish ?! ,selining kimlikini hish kim bilmeydu -yu ,seli ozliri u kim? ,bu kishige kizikip kaldim dep ketipla?bu sorunda etidin keshkiche shu ,"u kim ?sen kimting ,men akang bolimen , u ishpiyon ,bu dusmen "depla yuramduk, emdi bu you tube degen nerse chikip .yuzturani tillash bashlandi .ahir zaman bolghanda mana mushundak ihslar bolarmish rasmu Mekka ependim? bu ishlardin nime netije chikar ?mushundak kilip kimning toghra kimning hata dep ayrilighi bolarmu?


Bu kimmetlik ukimiz kim o ?

Ablajan Leylinaman ependige jawap sozi sozligen bu ukimizni tughkan anisini tapkan dadisini ALLAH rehmet kilsun,AMIN.

tokkuz minotlik video sozini anglap kop tesirlendim,we xehsiyetige kizzikip kaldim, eger bilidighanlar bir menilik bolmisa bu ukimizning ismi xeriplirini we kiskiqe terjume halini yezip koyghan bolsanglar,

Unregistered
05-01-08, 15:21
Kizik ish ?! ,selining kimlikini hish kim bilmeydu -yu ,seli ozliri u kim? ,bu kishige kizikip kaldim dep ketipla?bu sorunda etidin keshkiche shu ,"u kim ?sen kimting ,men akang bolimen , u ishpiyon ,bu dusmen "depla yuramduk, emdi bu you tube degen nerse chikip .yuzturani tillash bashlandi .ahir zaman bolghanda mana mushundak ihslar bolarmish rasmu Mekka ependim? bu ishlardin nime netije chikar ?mushundak kilip kimning toghra kimning hata dep ayrilighi bolarmu?

Men bu tor betliride Ablajan Leylinaman ependige karxi bir eghiz gep-soz yazghinim yok,qunki Ablajan Leylinaman ependining ANA UYGHURgha kilghan gep-sozlirini tehi korginim yok,amma men Ablajan Leylinaman ependining videoda arkigha xerki Turkistan bayrighini elip turup okughan uq minotluk xeirini kordum ve hekiketende bu zatka hormetim axkan idi,hetta ixininglar men Mekkide neqqe yerde Ablajan Leylinaman ependining ihtiyari adwukatlighini kilip u zatning Amerikada weten-millet uqun kilghan ixlirini her kimge mahtap himaye kilip keldim,

amma bu ukimiz digendek eger Ablajan Leylinaman ependi bilip bilmey ANA UYGHURgha hakaret we yaki karxi gep-sozlerni kilghan bolsa bu qong hata , mening diginim bu ukimiz 9 minotluk videoda hekiketende insanni hayajanlanduridighan bir gep-sozni kilghan u bolsimu hitay bizning eng mukeddes bilgen qong ailemizni yani wetenimizni quwuwetti, buninggha sukut kilix bir wijdanlik Uyghur uqun haram ,bu toghra gep. ikkinjisi xuki biz her kandak xert-xarayit astida ANA UYGHURni mutlek himaye kilimiz, hiq kimning her kandak sebeb bilen ANA UYGHURni hakaretlex, hetta tenkit kilix hem hekki yok bu mutlek buni bilix kerek.


IHTIYARI MUHBIR : MEKKE

Unregistered
05-01-08, 17:00
Yiraqta turup uning gepini anglisingiz uningdek tatliq gep qilidighan adem yoq, emma yenigha kelsingiz uning sessiqigha ikki minutmu chidap turalmaysiz. U qanunda hech unwan alghini yoq, Amrikida qanundin unwan elish undaq asan ish emes. Biraq uning yalghanchiliqtin unwani bar dise uni bulidighan herqandaq adem ishenmey qalmaydu. U amrikidiki omrini ene ashundaq sessiqchiliq ichide otkizishni talliwalghan bir shehs.



Men bu tor betliride Ablajan Leylinaman ependige karxi bir eghiz gep-soz yazghinim yok,qunki Ablajan Leylinaman ependining ANA UYGHURgha kilghan gep-sozlirini tehi korginim yok,amma men Ablajan Leylinaman ependining videoda arkigha xerki Turkistan bayrighini elip turup okughan uq minotluk xeirini kordum ve hekiketende bu zatka hormetim axkan idi,hetta ixininglar men Mekkide neqqe yerde Ablajan Leylinaman ependining ihtiyari adwukatlighini kilip u zatning Amerikada weten-millet uqun kilghan ixlirini her kimge mahtap himaye kilip keldim,

amma bu ukimiz digendek eger Ablajan Leylinaman ependi bilip bilmey ANA UYGHURgha hakaret we yaki karxi gep-sozlerni kilghan bolsa bu qong hata , mening diginim bu ukimiz 9 minotluk videoda hekiketende insanni hayajanlanduridighan bir gep-sozni kilghan u bolsimu hitay bizning eng mukeddes bilgen qong ailemizni yani wetenimizni quwuwetti, buninggha sukut kilix bir wijdanlik Uyghur uqun haram ,bu toghra gep. ikkinjisi xuki biz her kandak xert-xarayit astida ANA UYGHURni mutlek himaye kilimiz, hiq kimning her kandak sebeb bilen ANA UYGHURni hakaretlex, hetta tenkit kilix hem hekki yok bu mutlek buni bilix kerek.


IHTIYARI MUHBIR : MEKKE

Unregistered
05-01-08, 17:48
Rabiye xanim we DUQ ning sadiq qollughuchisi bolush suputum bilen yuqarqi nutuqning mezmonigha qarita hech bir etirazim yoq, emma mening diqqitimni jelip qilghan bir nuxta bar, siyasi sehnimizde tuyuqsiz peyda bolghan bu yigitke bu salahiyetni kim berdi ? unung DUQ we Rabiye xanimning namida soz qilish yaki murajet elan qilish hoqoqi barmu ? eger Ablajangha reddiye berishke toghra kelse resmiy teshkilat namidin yaki dawa sepimizde sinaqtin otken we kozge korungen siyasi paaliyetchilirimiz teripidin berilishi lazim, Rabiye xanim we DUQ ning shereplik namini hechkim suyistimal qilmasliqi kerek, keyinki mezgillerdin buyan Rabiye xanimni qollighan qiyapetke kiriwelip dawa sepimizdiki bezi shexislerge hujum qilidighan, haqaretleydighan we tillaydighanlar kopuyup ketti ( buyerde men yuqarqi nutuqni sozligen yigitni kozde tutmidim ), biz bundaq insanlargha meydan hazirlap bermeslikimiz lazim, bashqilargha pikir bergende yaki tenqitligende Rabiye xanim we DUQ ning namini qollinishtin saqlinishimiz kerek, bolmisa kuresh sepimizde jiddi ixtilaplar otturigha chiqidu ...
Hekiki ekillik Uyghur digen mana bu adem dep oylidim . DUQ ning namini herkandak bir xehisning namsiz yusunda turup paydilinixi biz Uyghur texkilatlirining mukemmel bolmighanlikidin derek beridu , xunga texkilatlirimizning namini sap sahlighandila Uyghur millitining dawasi xunqe tez terekki kilidu we pitne-ighwalar xunqe aziyidu .

Unregistered
05-01-08, 23:38
Ashundaq iplaslarning tilini yaki quliliqiki kesiwetish arqiliq bashqilargha ibrat qilish kerak. Mening erkin dunyada bundaq qilish uncha tas amas dap oylayman.

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06-01-08, 16:44
men sanga shuni bildürüp qoymaqchi menki... bilip qoy! men özem dihqan uyghur, Abla naman, Rabiye Anamni haqaretlise, bir eghiz zuwaning chiqmaydu... ejep qerindishim uyghur oghli jawap qaytursa siningche ZIDDIYWT PEYDA QILGHAN bolamdiken? sendek dallallar özini ziyali-siyasetchi jaghlap "qelem köresh" qilishsang, men Rabiye Anam üchün senlerge "ELEM KÖRESH" qilishqa her zaman tey'yar men Huda halisa....

Dihqan Uyghur
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Dixan uygurning Uyghurgha" KÖRESH" qilishini xuda Xalimaydu. xudayim chetelge chiqip qalghan dixan uyghurni uyghurgha kotergen ketmen bilen "xitay birliki" bolimiz digen qurut-qongghuzlarni chipip tashlisun deptu. yaki ketmenni tashlap omdan oqup alim bolsun deptu.
cetelde dixan uyghur yoq. bu saxtikarning bir gepliri xitaychi kitiwatidu. tongguz baqidighan
dixandek...xuda tonimaydu.

Unregistered
07-01-08, 01:24
Siz A LALMI LAMANING chumaqchisimu ? Yaki uning digen sözlirni Angqap Sezemmeydighan
Bir Bayqush mu siz nime ? Siz Dixqanni Gha xaqaret qilmang ! Bizning Ejdatlirmiz Dixqandur !!! ZEREP SHAN UYGHUR !!!






men sanga shuni bildürüp qoymaqchi menki... bilip qoy! men özem dihqan uyghur, Abla naman, Rabiye Anamni haqaretlise, bir eghiz zuwaning chiqmaydu... ejep qerindishim uyghur oghli jawap qaytursa siningche ZIDDIYWT PEYDA QILGHAN bolamdiken? sendek dallallar özini ziyali-siyasetchi jaghlap "qelem köresh" qilishsang, men Rabiye Anam üchün senlerge "ELEM KÖRESH" qilishqa her zaman tey'yar men Huda halisa....

Dihqan Uyghur
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Dixan uygurning Uyghurgha" KÖRESH" qilishini xuda Xalimaydu. xudayim chetelge chiqip qalghan dixan uyghurni uyghurgha kotergen ketmen bilen "xitay birliki" bolimiz digen qurut-qongghuzlarni chipip tashlisun deptu. yaki ketmenni tashlap omdan oqup alim bolsun deptu.
cetelde dixan uyghur yoq. bu saxtikarning bir gepliri xitaychi kitiwatidu. tongguz baqidighan
dixandek...xuda tonimaydu.

Unregistered
07-01-08, 03:38
Ashundaq iplaslarning tilini yaki quliliqiki kesiwetish arqiliq bashqilargha ibrat qilish kerak. Mening erkin dunyada bundaq qilish uncha tas amas dap oylayman.

Hay ot yurak uyghur yigitliri, Ablajangha radiya bargan ot yurak ukimiz wa Ablajan silarga ulga bolsun. Harqaysinglar kallanglarni silkiwetip oylap korunglar. Ashu ot yurak ukimizdin bashqinglarning qaysisi Ablajangha ochuq ashkara radiya beralidinglar. Harqaysinglar Ablajanni tanqitlap, tillap kop japa chaktinglar, lekin hishqaysinglar isminglarni ashkariliyalmidinglar. Hatta baziliringlar, oz maqalanglarda ozanlarga has yezish uslubinglarni yoshurushqa tirshtinglar. Silar uchun Ablajan shundaq bir qoqunushluq mawjudiyat ohshimamdu? Agar Ablajandin shuncha qorqsanglar, uninggha oz naminglarda radiya berishkimu yarimisanglar, bu silarning "elem kurishi" amas "qelem korishi"gimu yarimaydighanliqinglarni ispatlaydu.

Bolupmu tili otkur MEKKE apndim wa Dehqan Uighur sepidikilar yahshiraq oylap beqishi kerak!!!!!

Unregistered
10-01-08, 15:01
Bu yigit Rabiya Kadirni bilmaydu ham tonimaydu.Likin rabiya kadirning kilghan inkilapliri, uzining halki uqun kanqilik kurban beriwatkinini bilidu.
Yaraysiz. sizdak ballarning koplap qekishini umut kilimiz.
You are the man of the week!!!!!!!
what a speech it was!

bu yigit Rabiye hanimni yahshi tonuydu.

bu yigit germaniyege oqushqa kelgen oqughuchi. nahayitimu yureklik yigitken, wetengimu berip keleleydu. teshkilatlirimizning hemme paaliyetlirige aktip qatnishalaydu.

bizning uyghur yigitlirimiz mana mushundaq yureklik bolushi lazim.

germaniyediki oquwatqan oqughuchilar , bu oqughuchi yigitning rohidin ugununglar.

Unregistered
10-01-08, 19:54
There is nothing wrong with what he was saying. Even if it was, this is a country that stands for freedom. He has every right to speak his mind. Attacking those who don't agree with you is a sign of dictatorship, which ONLY happens in authoritarian regimes like China.

No matter what he does, he is always your brother, not your enemy, keep that in mind. It is Chinese communists that you need to fight against, not your own kind.


yahxi jawap boluptughu bu ?

Unregistered
11-01-08, 00:10
There is nothing wrong with what he was saying. Even if it was, this is a country that stands for freedom. He has every right to speak his mind. Attacking those who don't agree with you is a sign of dictatorship, which ONLY happens in authoritarian regimes like China.

No matter what he does, he is always your brother, not your enemy, keep that in mind. It is Chinese communists that you need to fight against, not your own kind.

Always a brother????? you are out of your FUCKING mind. I know who you are. So shut it!!!!!!!! he can never be anybody's brother. You keep in mind that you will be next stinky SESIK in Washington if you don't watch out.
enjoy it and don't reply!!!!!!!!!

Unregistered
11-01-08, 00:28
There is nothing wrong with what he was saying. Even if it was, this is a country that stands for freedom. He has every right to speak his mind. Attacking those who don't agree with you is a sign of dictatorship, which ONLY happens in authoritarian regimes like China.

No matter what he does, he is always your brother, not your enemy, keep that in mind. It is Chinese communists that you need to fight against, not your own kind.

Nothing wrong with what he said? no matter what he does? . I don't want to say it more. Next time old brother, please write your name. That is what the PHD's do. Maybe there is something else we don't know about you. That's why you say that.
you are starting to show your tail. that's good!!!!!! I bet more is coming. I will be writing in Uihgur next, so they can tell who you are.
sweet dreams

Unregistered
11-01-08, 10:05
Calling names again! Thank you. I guess you can’t really expect anything more than this from this message board.
Let’s do this: Let’s teach all the Uyghurs what to say and what not to say. If anybody disagrees, arrest them or put them in jail. If they still don’t change, kill them.
Also, Let’s conduct some sort of ideological trainings or meetings for all Uyghurs so everybody speaks the same language, and acts the same way, and nobody dares to voice different views.
Better yet, let’s all go back to where we come from because none of us seemed to cherish freedom of speech and to respect individual rights that this country has offered to us.
Shame on you.




Nothing wrong with what he said? no matter what he does? . I don't want to say it more. Next time old brother, please write your name. That is what the PHD's do. Maybe there is something else we don't know about you. That's why you say that.
you are starting to show your tail. that's good!!!!!! I bet more is coming. I will be writing in Uihgur next, so they can tell who you are.
sweet dreams

Unregistered
11-01-08, 10:29
Calling names again! Thank you. I guess you can’t really expect anything more than this from this message board.
Let’s do this: Let’s teach all the Uyghurs what to say and what not to say. If anybody disagrees, arrest them or put them in jail. If they still don’t change, kill them.
Also, Let’s conduct some sort of ideological trainings or meetings for all Uyghurs so everybody speaks the same language, and acts the same way, and nobody dares to voice different views.
Better yet, let’s all go back to where we come from because none of us seemed to cherish freedom of speech and to respect individual rights that this country has offered to us.
Shame on you.

Meningche Uyghurlar sizning nimilerni dep, nimilerni dimeslikni ogitishingizge muxtaj emes. we'have already learned enough from you.

Pikir erkinliki digenlik, aghzigha kelgennni dep, mexsetlik halda bashqilargha zerbe berse bolidu digenlik emestu? Demokratiye digenlik Xitay nime dese shuning dipigha usul oynash digenlik emestu?

Washington etrapidiki Uyghurlarning arisigha yeterlik shumbuyilarni yetishturdinglar, yiter! yiter!. Wijdaninglar bilen ish qilinglar, Xitaygha qilghan wediliringlarnimu emelge ashurup bolghansiler? Emdi yana nime qilmaqchi?

Shame on you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unregistered
11-01-08, 11:14
I don’t know what you are talking about. Everybody who doesn’t agree with you works for the Chinese government, is that what you are trying to say? Hilarious! Tell you the truth, I will be making much more money than what I am making now if I did work for the Chinese. But the reality is, I haven’t forgotten who I am and where I came from. I happened to be a member of that dying nation that lost its land, people and much more. I have my dignity and self-consciousness to do the right thing. So if you have too much free time, get a second job. Don’t waste your time here to try to figure out who is spy and who is not.
Also, try to learn what is happening around you, don’t just stick around your tiny little community. Learn about this country, what it stands for, and how people enjoy their rights. The US media criticize Bush every day, has he ever tried to shut down any of those media outlets? has he ever tried to silence reporters, scholars, politicians who don’t agree with him? Almost 60% of percent of US citizens think he is doing a bad job, he has ever tried to attack on any of them? Just think about it. Aren’t we the people who are eager for democracy? If so, this is a chance. Being a leader means you need to face all these challenges, criticisms, and attacks. IF YOU CAN’T TAKE IT, LEAVE IT!




Meningche Uyghurlar sizning nimilerni dep, nimilerni dimeslikni ogitishingizge muxtaj emes. we'have already learned enough from you.

Pikir erkinliki digenlik, aghzigha kelgennni dep, mexsetlik halda bashqilargha zerbe berse bolidu digenlik emestu? Demokratiye digenlik Xitay nime dese shuning dipigha usul oynash digenlik emestu?

Washington etrapidiki Uyghurlarning arisigha yeterlik shumbuyilarni yetishturdinglar, yiter! yiter!. Wijdaninglar bilen ish qilinglar, Xitaygha qilghan wediliringlarnimu emelge ashurup bolghansiler? Emdi yana nime qilmaqchi?

Shame on you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unregistered
11-01-08, 15:07
[QUOTE=Unregistered;31230]Calling names again! Thank you. I guess you can’t really expect anything more than this from this message board.
Let’s do this: Let’s teach all the Uyghurs what to say and what not to say. If anybody disagrees, arrest them or put them in jail. If they still don’t change, kill them.
Also, Let’s conduct some sort of ideological trainings or meetings for all Uyghurs so everybody speaks the same language, and acts the same way, and nobody dares to voice different views.
Better yet, let’s all go back to where we come from because none of us seemed to cherish freedom of speech and to respect individual rights that this country has offered to us.
Shame on you.[/QUOte



nice one there....

by the way i am not that ablajan, and i hope to retreat to oblivion once again without getting flamed...thanks in advance

Unregistered
11-01-08, 15:43
Bir Uyghur yigiti Hittaygha kayturilish aldida tursimu siler bir-biringlarni yukirkidek tillap yene ozenglarni milletqi dep oylamsiler? Bu temini korgen ademning sanimu az iken we birer eghiz uh tartishmu yok qiwindek hemmisi pokka qaplishiwalghan. Keni hekiketen millet disenglar Ahmet Ablikimge kandak kelip dushmenning koligha kayturghuzmaydighan ishlarni we sozlerni kilayli. Bezi-bir temilargha karap bu bette kanqilik gheywetqi we kanqilik wetenperwer barlighini beliwalghili bolidu. Hemmimiz oz emiliyitimiz bilen niyitimizni namayen kelimiz.





Case Shows Plight of Uyghurs in China

2008-01-10

Ahmet Ablikim, a 31 year old Uyghur activist, faces deportation from the Netherlands back to China in the coming days as he awaits the outcome of his final appeal under the appeals process.

Once in China, Mr Ablikum, like many of his Uyghur compatriots faces detention and possible capital punishment for his activities.

Since fleeing to the Netherlands in 2006 Mr Ablikum has been active in raising awareness for the Uyghur cause, including collaboration with the East Turkestan Foundation of the Netherlands.

Under article four of the Chinese constitution, it should be possible to protect and freely participate in events that are traditional to Uyghur culture and customs. This has never proved to be entirely the case, and in 1994 celebration of the Uyghur New Year and culture were outlawed.

Uyghurs who have protested against such infringements of cultural expression have typically found themselves detained for years on charges of ‘state security crimes’, alleged promotion of separatism, or even terrorism. A number of Uyghur organisations have been suppressed and banned by the Chinese authorities and detention of Uyghur activists is often accompanied by extensive use of torture designed to extract confessions.

As China prepares to host the 2008 Olympic Games, acts such as those perpetrated by the Chinese authorities against the Uyghur place it at odds with the key principles of Olympism. Among those principles is the understanding that “discrimination with regard to a country or a person on grounds of race, religion, politics, gender or otherwise is incompatible with belonging to the Olympic Movement”.

http://www.unpo.org/article.php?id=7454

Unregistered
11-01-08, 17:10
I don’t know what you are talking about. Everybody who doesn’t agree with you works for the Chinese government, is that what you are trying to say? Hilarious! Tell you the truth, I will be making much more money than what I am making now if I did work for the Chinese. But the reality is, I haven’t forgotten who I am and where I came from. I happened to be a member of that dying nation that lost its land, people and much more. I have my dignity and self-consciousness to do the right thing. So if you have too much free time, get a second job. Don’t waste your time here to try to figure out who is spy and who is not.
Also, try to learn what is happening around you, don’t just stick around your tiny little community. Learn about this country, what it stands for, and how people enjoy their rights. The US media criticize Bush every day, has he ever tried to shut down any of those media outlets? has he ever tried to silence reporters, scholars, politicians who don’t agree with him? Almost 60% of percent of US citizens think he is doing a bad job, he has ever tried to attack on any of them? Just think about it. Aren’t we the people who are eager for democracy? If so, this is a chance. Being a leader means you need to face all these challenges, criticisms, and attacks. IF YOU CAN’T TAKE IT, LEAVE IT!


Please spend some time to learn Uyghur if you do not know what I am talking about!!!!

Amerika we bashqa jaylardki MUTLEQ kop qisim Uyghurlar Rabiye xanimning qiliwatqanlirini Uyghur millitige paydiliq dep qarap, uni oz rehbiri dep bilip qollap qiliwatqan mushu sharaitta, silerning otturigha chiqip Rabiye xanimgha zerbe bérip, uning qiliwatqinini “siyasiy xainliq” dep teshwiq qilish arqiliq, xanimning Uyghurlar we xelqaradiki siyasiy ornini yerge urushqa tirishish, silerning dilinglarning Uyghur ikenlikide shek qozghaydu. Xitaymu her xil oxshimighan ussul arqiliq – mesilen Rabiye xanimning türmige waqtidiki siyasiy öginish jeryanida yadilitilghan sözliri élin’ghan körünüshlerni Youtubeda qoyush arqiliq, uning Uyghurlar arsidiki obrazigha hujum qilmaqta. Siler bolsanglar Xitayning shu teshwiqatigha awaz qoshup we uni desmi qilip, Rabiye xanimgha hujum Qiliwatisiler hetta oz tor betinglarda qoyup teshwiq Qiliwatisiler…. …… Bu del Xitay jasuliri qilishqa tigishlik ishlardur…………..

Ozingizning nedin Kelgenlikingizni we kimlikingizni untimighanliqingizdin soyundum. Her bir adem shundaq bolushi kirek. Biraq shuni bilip qoyungki hetta Ablet Abdureshit we ismail tiliwaldilarmu buni untimighan we oz yurtdashlirini yénigha tartip, ulargha yardem qilghan. Uyghur Bolghanliqingiz qilgan hemme ishliringhizning Uyghurlargha paydiliq Bolidighanliqidin direk bermeydu. Bolsa paydiliq ish qiling, eger sizge pul tépish muhim bolsa, oz ishingizni qilip, bu ishlargha Arilashmang, Özingiz bilip – bilmey Xitayning senimige Dessimeng.

Mening unche kop bikar waqtimmu yoq. Biraq, sizge we etrapingizdikilerge oxshashlar otturigha chiqip, uyghur dewasigha ziyanliq ishlarni qilsa, uninggha reddiye bérish üchün waqit Chiqiralaymen we uni burchim dep bilimen.




Men özem Uyghur bolghachqa mushi kichikkine jamaetke yiqinraq turmen we shuningdin hozur alimen. Ders bermisingzimu özem yashawatqan bu doletni chishunishke tiriship kéliwatimen. Merhemmet, ozingizning hoquqidin behriman bolung biraq shuning bilen bir waqitta bashqilarningmu shundaq hoquqtin behriman bolidighanliqini untup qalmang.

Siz Bushni misal qilip sozlepsiz. Men teqdirimiz oxshash halette turuwatqan Tibetlerni misal qilay.

Dalai Lama Tibet musteqilliqini emes belki yuqiri Aptonomiyini telep qiliwatidu. Men hazirghiche birer tibetning, hetta musteqilliq dep otturigha chiqiwatqan Tibet Yahslar Partiyisining Dalai Lamani “Siyasiy satqun” digenlikini anglap baqmidim. Eksiche ular Dalai Lamani qollap kiliwatidu. Rabiye Qadir xanim sizler qara chaplawatqandek APTONOMIYE dep chiqqini yoq, biraq erkinlik we musteqilliq dep kiliwatidu. (Rabiye xanimni ‘Siyasiy satqun’ dep haqaretleshtin burun uning UyghurTV da qoyulghan murajitini anglap béqing).

Elwette, rehber bolghan kishi bashqilarning tenqidi we hujumidin xali bolalmaydu, biraq, bashqilarning asassiz qara chaplashlirigha süküt qilishi kirek deydighan mentiqimu yoq.

“Bir qisim kishiler teripidin” emes, belki cheteldiki mutleq kop qisim Uyghurlar teripidin ‘Uyghurlarning anisi’ dep teripliniwatqan Rabiye xanimgha qilnghan asassiz haqaretke jawab qayturush her bir ademning hoquqi.

IF YOU CAN’T TAKE IT, DO NOT START IT

Unregistered
11-01-08, 19:00
My dear, do not overestimate your value to the Chinese or their generosity.

I don’t know what you are talking about. Everybody who doesn’t agree with you works for the Chinese government, is that what you are trying to say? Hilarious! Tell you the truth, I will be making much more money than what I am making now if I did work for the Chinese

I guess you understand what democracy means very well? First, learn to make the distinction between shutting down some one--which means not allowing some one to talk-- and criticizing some--which means expressing one's opinion on somebody else’s opinion. If you can't handle criticism, then you should reconsider whether to speak or not. I do not think anybody or organization has the executive power or means to shut down Ablajan or anybody else. You are talking here, are not you? Nobody has stopped you.

A little clue for you: executive power is the prerequisite to dictatorship. As far as I know no individual or organization in the Uyghur community has executive power that determines people's lives. Therefore, invoking of dictatorship in your previous response is a total BS or ignorance. I'll respond to your initial response separately.

[/QUOTE]Also, try to learn what is happening around you, don’t just stick around your tiny little community. Learn about this country, what it stands for, and how people enjoy their rights. The US media criticize Bush every day, has he ever tried to shut down any of those media outlets? has he ever tried to silence reporters, scholars, politicians who don’t agree with him? Almost 60% of percent of US citizens think he is doing a bad job, he has ever tried to attack on any of them? Just think about it. Aren’t we the people who are eager for democracy? If so, this is a chance. Being a leader means you need to face all these challenges, criticisms, and attacks. IF YOU CAN’T TAKE IT, LEAVE IT![/QUOTE]

Unregistered
11-01-08, 19:05
men sanga shuni bildürüp qoymaqchi menki... bilip qoy! men özem dihqan uyghur, Abla naman, Rabiye Anamni haqaretlise, bir eghiz zuwaning chiqmaydu... ejep qerindishim uyghur oghli jawap qaytursa siningche ZIDDIYWT PEYDA QILGHAN bolamdiken? sendek dallallar özini ziyali-siyasetchi jaghlap "qelem köresh" qilishsang, men Rabiye Anam üchün senlerge "ELEM KÖRESH" qilishqa her zaman tey'yar men Huda halisa....

Dihqan Uyghur
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Dixan uygurning Uyghurgha" KÖRESH" qilishini xuda Xalimaydu. xudayim chetelge chiqip qalghan dixan uyghurni uyghurgha kotergen ketmen bilen "xitay birliki" bolimiz digen qurut-qongghuzlarni chipip tashlisun deptu. yaki ketmenni tashlap omdan oqup alim bolsun deptu.
cetelde dixan uyghur yoq. bu saxtikarning bir gepliri xitaychi kitiwatidu. tongguz baqidighan
dixandek...xuda tonimaydu.

Almaqning- bermigi bar..... DIHQAN'ning ketminige yoloqma, DIHQAN ölömdin qorqmaydu!.. Birinji: -sendek... qanjiq, lalma, munapiq bedbex, bedereklerni chapido... hem Xudayim'ning xalishimu muheqqeqdur, dihqan tongguz baqsimu, sendek solamchi, kötemich, dallal-shorbangchiliq qilip, arlighidin shinika ilip, chetelge chiqmighan, "DIHQAN" her yerde öz kuchige tayinip yashaydu, sendek shorbangchilik qilip yashimaydu... "DIHQAN" dayim birla Heqiqet'te! Sen shorbichi bolsang, qaysi tereptin shinika köp kelse, shu terepte... DIHQAN'ning yiterlik bilimi bar, sen shorbichi, sisiq ziyalidin yahshi... Xudayim nimini halap-halimaydighan... nimini tonop-tonimaydighanlighini, peqet Xudayim özi yahshi bilido! Sen shorbichi-yalaqchi ziyali... emes.

DIHQAN Uyghur

Unregistered
11-01-08, 19:42
First, let me ask you, have your watched the videos and understood what Ablajan said? If yes, then tell me which part of his talk you are refering to when you say "nothing wrong with what he was saying"? It is a long video in which he said a lot of things, some of which is right and some of which is wrong in my opinion. Your statement is quite vague. I am not sure if you meant to say that it is not wrong he spoke or nothing wrong with what he spoke. They are quite different concept. If you found everything he said is right, then I would like to know as well so that I can write an appropriate response.

I found fault with quite a few things he said. He was one of the pioneers of human rights activism in US, but he attacked human rights activism its achievements (US support) in his video speech. What has changed to cause him to have a change of heart? Nothing as far as the cause itself is concerned, but people in the organizations that represent the cause have changed. All his problems are rooted in th fact that he is not smart enough to make distinction beween the people who hold position in organizations and the ideologies that the organizations stand for.

Nobody is attacking Abljan, they are attacking or rather criticizing his opinion, which is well within the boundary of freedom of speech.

It is true that people pointed out rather bluntly the flaws in his character, which I believe is relavant to the discussion at hand. In order to understand where he is coming from, you have to know who he is and what he stands for. I have known Abljan for quite some time. He has been less than a model citizen if you ask me. I happen to know that there is certain truth in what people are saying about his character. Honestly, I do not like the manner or tone people talk, at the same time I can't deny that most of what they said are true. Since not everybody here is as well trained in the art of talking as you are, you expect some rough manners as we always do here. But, they have valid points. Even though it does not justify their rude manners, Abljan is no strange to this kind of rough talking. He can be quite nasty too (but, to be fair, I have not seen it this time around though).



There is nothing wrong with what he was saying. Even if it was, this is a country that stands for freedom. He has every right to speak his mind. Attacking those who don't agree with you is a sign of dictatorship, which ONLY happens in authoritarian regimes like China.

No matter what he does, he is always your brother, not your enemy, keep that in mind. It is Chinese communists that you need to fight against, not your own kind.

Unregistered
11-01-08, 22:23
Calling names again! Thank you. I guess you can’t really expect anything more than this from this message board.
Let’s do this: Let’s teach all the Uyghurs what to say and what not to say. If anybody disagrees, arrest them or put them in jail. If they still don’t change, kill them.
Also, Let’s conduct some sort of ideological trainings or meetings for all Uyghurs so everybody speaks the same language, and acts the same way, and nobody dares to voice different views.
Better yet, let’s all go back to where we come from because none of us seemed to cherish freedom of speech and to respect individual rights that this country has offered to us.
Shame on you.
Funny you say that, How many more have to go jail because of what you do and have done.
Going back where? you must be one of those.......... but i tell you this, you go ahead and go, and don't ever say anything if you don't know waht you talking about. Enjoy your freedom!!!!!!!

Unregistered
12-01-08, 12:59
Almaqning- bermigi bar..... DIHQAN'ning ketminige yoloqma, DIHQAN ölömdin qorqmaydu!.. Birinji: -sendek... qanjiq, lalma, munapiq bedbex, bedereklerni chapido... hem Xudayim'ning xalishimu muheqqeqdur, dihqan tongguz baqsimu, sendek solamchi, kötemich, dallal-shorbangchiliq qilip, arlighidin shinika ilip, chetelge chiqmighan, "DIHQAN" her yerde öz kuchige tayinip yashaydu, sendek shorbangchilik qilip yashimaydu... "DIHQAN" dayim birla Heqiqet'te! Sen shorbichi bolsang, qaysi tereptin shinika köp kelse, shu terepte... DIHQAN'ning yiterlik bilimi bar, sen shorbichi, sisiq ziyalidin yahshi... Xudayim nimini halap-halimaydighan... nimini tonop-tonimaydighanlighini, peqet Xudayim özi yahshi bilido! Sen shorbichi-yalaqchi ziyali... emes.

DIHQAN Uyghur
"Valid points huh"!!!!!!!! "He got some manners"? and "he didn't use it this time" why don't you just call me and say it to face to face. or you are afraid same thing happens like last time.
you don't have to convince me and hide yourself in a way that you will be the next obstacle in Uyghur Human Right Workers but kittle different from Ablajan.
thanks for justification.

Unregistered
13-01-08, 20:11
Well, let me clarify:

There is nothing wrong with WHETHER HE SPOKE on the Youtube because it is a website open for the public, which means EVERYBODY can have access to it and utilize it in a way he/she thinks fit.

There is also nothing wrong with WHAT HE SAID because he has the right to speak his mind whether you agree or not. I watched the video, and I don't think I would agree with all of his political or ideological agenda given the current situation that Uyghurs are in at this point. But that does NOT mean that I will hold personal attack or resentment against him. It is just a different viewpoint, period. I think people need to learn how to appreciate differences rather than trying to eliminate them because that is the way how you keep things moving forward.

BUT something that did go wrong was HOW HE SAID IT. He should have been able to deliver his message in a diplomatic way. There is a way of making your point without making an enemy, which is called tact. Obviously this wasn't the case in the video. However, damage has already been made, and what we SHOULD BE DOING is to try to control it, not to scold the person to death, which I believe is counter-productive.

I personally don't know Abljan, so there must be some things about him that you know more than I do. I have no interest in his character AND absolutely no intention of defending him. I am voicing my opinions simply because I am (or at least I think I am) a member of the Uyghur community in the US, and I believe there are some differenct voices that need to be heard by our leadership. I did sense a tendency of mixing personal relationships with politics, which turned our organizations into a complete chaos. For example, we have UAA, WUC, IUHRDF, and East Turkistan Government in Exile, and so forth, but except for UAA and WUC which led by Ms. Kadeer, none of the other organizations seemed to be interested in working together in a consorted effort. Why is that so? Is it because of the difference in their political agenda? Absolutely no. I do NOT believe any Uyghur or any of those Uyghur organizations wouldn’t want independence for East Turkistan. It is the complicated personal relationships and lack of communication in our leadership that keeps our organizations fragmented and divided.

Believe or not, I have the highest respect for Ms. Kadeer for all of the efforts and sacrifices that she has made for the Uyghur people. By making all these comments, I didn’t mean to back up Abljan, nor did I intend to criticize Ms. Kadeer. ALL I am trying to say is that this cause requires strategy and collaboration from each and every member of this community. Some of us might call for independence out-loud, while others want to be realistic, and to take one step at a time. In any case, people should be allowed to have choices because they can be educated, or convinced, but never be stigmatised. Sometimes we just need to be a little more tolerant with and respectful of each other and our differences because we share something that nobody else could possibly understand, that is, passion for the homeland that we left behind. Ms. Kadeer is believed to unite all the Uyghurs. And I still have tremendous trust and faith in her ability to make this happen.

P.S. I ONLY reply to messages that are written in a civilized manner. Calling names will be ignored.


First, let me ask you, have your watched the videos and understood what Ablajan said? If yes, then tell me which part of his talk you are refering to when you say "nothing wrong with what he was saying"? It is a long video in which he said a lot of things, some of which is right and some of which is wrong in my opinion. Your statement is quite vague. I am not sure if you meant to say that it is not wrong he spoke or nothing wrong with what he spoke. They are quite different concept. If you found everything he said is right, then I would like to know as well so that I can write an appropriate response.

I found fault with quite a few things he said. He was one of the pioneers of human rights activism in US, but he attacked human rights activism its achievements (US support) in his video speech. What has changed to cause him to have a change of heart? Nothing as far as the cause itself is concerned, but people in the organizations that represent the cause have changed. All his problems are rooted in th fact that he is not smart enough to make distinction beween the people who hold position in organizations and the ideologies that the organizations stand for.

Nobody is attacking Abljan, they are attacking or rather criticizing his opinion, which is well within the boundary of freedom of speech.

It is true that people pointed out rather bluntly the flaws in his character, which I believe is relavant to the discussion at hand. In order to understand where he is coming from, you have to know who he is and what he stands for. I have known Abljan for quite some time. He has been less than a model citizen if you ask me. I happen to know that there is certain truth in what people are saying about his character. Honestly, I do not like the manner or tone people talk, at the same time I can't deny that most of what they said are true. Since not everybody here is as well trained in the art of talking as you are, you expect some rough manners as we always do here. But, they have valid points. Even though it does not justify their rude manners, Abljan is no strange to this kind of rough talking. He can be quite nasty too (but, to be fair, I have not seen it this time around though).

Unregistered
15-01-08, 06:30
good job, man!

Unregistered
16-01-08, 11:42
bu, munderdiki shu timiga alakidar makalilerdin koqurup kilindi,
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Ablajan Laylinamangha Reddiye



Hormetlik Sherqiy Turkistanliq Wetendashlar,

Yeqinda Amerikida turushluq Ablajan Laylinamanning youtube.com da wetinimiz Sherqiy Turkistanning ichi we sirtidiki Uyghurlargha chiqarghan ‘murajiet’ xarakterliq yengi yilliq nutqini korup qaldim. Mezkur nutuqta qanun kespi boyiche Amerikida men hayatimda anglap baqmighan alliqandaq bir debdebilik ‘peshwaliq’ unwanigha erishken mezkur janap ozini ‘hemmini bilermen’ we kespiy jehette ‘nopuzluq’ erbab sheklide yasap tarap chiqip, ozining dewayimizning hazirqi weziyiti toghrisidiki qarashlirini bir xil ‘dahiyane’ qiyapette oturigha qoyushqa kop tirishqan. Elwette, herqandaq bir ademning ozining koz qarishini erkin otturigha qoyushi piker erkinlikining eng roshen we nigizlik qismidur. Shu seweb, men mezkur janapning oz pikrini erkin otturigha qoyishini qollaymen hem bundin keyinmu qarshi alimen. Emma, qanun penliride ‘yetishken’ bu atalmish ‘ellame’ ning nutqida Uyghurlarning cheteldiki milliy dewasini elip beriwatqan bezi teshkilatlirimizni we rehberlirimizge astrittin tohmet qilish, xelqni qaymuqturush we ittipqsizlashturush, bashqilarni abroysizlashturushqa urunush xahishi eghir bolghachqa, men uning qrahlirigha reddiye berishni zorur taptim.
Aldi bilen shuni seminglerge selip qoyayki, youtube.com yeqindin beri Xitay hokumitining Uyghur dewasining yolbashchisi we Dunya Uyghur Qurultiyining reisi Rabiye xanimgha we u yetekchilik qiliwatqan Uyghur milliy musteqilliq dewasigha hujum qilishtiki bir konguldikidek meydangha aylinip qeliwatidu. Rabiye Qadir xanimgha we bashqa Uyghur teshkilatlirigha qaritiliwatqan hujumlar xanimning Sherqiy Turkistanning musteqilliqini uzul kesil qolgha kelturush paaliyetlirining teximu yuqiri baldaqqa chiqishigha egiship, ozining teximu ghaljir we nomussiz yuzini ayan qilmaqta. Bu yuzler xilmu xil terizde perdazlinip meyli yoshurun meyli ashkara shekilde otturigha chiqiwatidu. Birliri Rabiye Qadir xanimni abroysizlashturushqa tirishsa, birliri Uyghurlarning muqeddes siyasiy ghayisi bolghan ‘musteqilliq’ arzusini ustiliq bilen suyiistimal qilip, uninggha bohtan chaplimaqta. Ablajan Laylinaman dal keyinki xildiki yeni yengi niqab bilan otturigha chushken kona yuz tipidiki ademdur.
Emdi ‘musteqilliq’ tonigha oriniwilish arqiliq heqiqiy musteqilchilerge zerbe berishke yenggilteklik we tenteklik bilen chushken bu janapning qarashlirining ept-beshirisige bir qarap baqayli. Aldi bilen ozini xelqara weziyetni chongqur chushinidighan qilip korsitishke tirishwatqan bu ‘qanun ellamisi’ Uyghur musteqilchiliq jengchilirining Amerika we Birleshken Milletler teshkilatining terroristlar tizimlikige chushup qelishini Amerikining 11-sentebir weqesidin keyin, ozining Iraqqa hujum qilishida Birleshken Milletler teshkilatining xepsizlik kengishide Xitayning awaz berip qollishini qolgha kelturush sewebidin dep qaraydu. U teximu ilgirilep, mana mushu siyasiy yeng sodisida Xitay Amerikini qollaydu, netijide Amerika Pakistan we Afghanistantidiki Uyghur musteqilliq jengchilirige bomba tashlap zerbe beridu. Xitay bolsa, Uyghurlarni terrozmgha qarshi turush bahanisi bilen teximu qattiq basturidu. Demek, chong doletler oturisidki siyasiy sodida axirda ziyan tartqini yenila Uyghur bolup qalidu. Mezkur ellama teximu ilgiriligen halda shundaq deyduki, Amerika bashchiliqidiki gherb doletliridin Uyghurlarning oz teqdirini ozi belgilesh ishida umid kutushke hergiz bolmaydu. Arqidinla, ozining awwal neme degenlikini untup qalghan yaki qesten untuwalghan bu tentek ‘ellame’ Amerika we Yawropa Birlikige eza doletlerning Uyghurlarning musteqilliq herikitini ‘xata chushinip’ qelip, terrorizimgha baghlishini Uyghur teshkilatlirining Uyghur dewasini bu doletlerge yaxshi uqturalmighanliqi dep xulase chiqiridu. Bu janap yene shundaq deyduki, ‘eger kurishimizning azadliq we musteqilliq kurishi hem ziminimizning Xitay teripidin yolsizlarche besiwalghan bir jahangir kuchke qarshi kuresh ikenlikini anglitalighan bolsaq, u halda Amerika we Yawropa Birlikige eza doletler bolsun bizning Xitay hokumitige elip barghan herqandaq shekildiki kureshlirimizni xuddi Bosh hokimitidek qarghularche Xitay propagandasigha ishinip, terrorluq heriket dep etirap qilmighan bolatti. Men buni hergizmu tamamen Yawropa Birlikige tewe doletlerdin we Bush hokumitidin kormeymen.’ Bush hokumitini Iraq urushida Xitayning qollishini qolgha kelturush uchun bizning bir qisim teshkilatlirimiz we inqilabchilirimizni terrorizm qalpiqi bilen eyiblidi deyish arqiliq siyasiy menpeeti uchun hechnemidin ayanmaydighan gherb dunyasidin Uyghurlargha menggu wapa kelmeslik nezeriyisini kuchep bazargha salghan bu janap birdemdin keyinla Amerikini Xitayning propagandasigha ishinip ketken sadda dolet qatarida teswirlimekchi bolidu. Uning qarishidiki bundaq zitliq uning mentiqiy tepekkurning sahibi emeslikini bildurupla qalmay, yene teximu muhimi uning Uyghurlarning terrorizmning qurbani bolushini hazirqi liderlirimizgha we teshkilatlirimizgha dongeshke mentiqisizliqqa tolghan oktemlik bilen uruniwatqanliqidek rezil niyitinimu echip beridu. Ademning diqqitini teximu tartidighini shuki, u gherb doletlirining Uyghurlargha bolghan wapasizliqini kuchep bazargha selish arqiliq Uyhgurlarning milliy dewasining gherb doletliride kuchiyishige dushmenlik qilish neziride boliwatqan we uni yoqitish uchun keche kunduz bash qaturiwatqan xitay hakimiyiti bilen bir septe ikenlikini teximu ashkarilaydu. Bu arqiliq, u ozini qilche yoshurmastin ozining Xitayning 7-nomurluq mexpiy hojjitide qeyt qilinghan Uyghur milliy musteqilliq dewasining gherbte kuchiyishining aldini elish we ularni uzul kesil yetim qaldurush kerek degen mexpiy chaqiriqining Amerikidiki aktip ijrachisi ikenlikini yene bir qetim ispatlaydu.
Bu janap yene Rabiye Qadir xanim bashchiliqidiki Uyghur musteqilliq herikitige kishilik hoquq dewasini musteqilliq dewasidin ustun orungha qoydi dep bohtan chaplaydu. Emeliyette, Uyghurlarning kishilik hoquq dewasi musteqilliq dewasining muhim we zorur qedem bashquchliridin biri. Siyasiy stgrategiyidin azraqla xewiri bar hem normal tepekkurgha ige ademge shu nerse yochun emeski, kishilik hoquq dewasining axirqi meqsiti qandaqtur musteqilliq dewasini xuddi bu janap eytqandaq aptonomiye telep qilishqa chushurup qoyushni emes, belki uni teximu unumluk elip berishtiki hel qilghuch wasitige ige qilishtur. Musteqilliq dewasi meqset bolse, kishilik hoquq dewasi uning emelge ashurushta kem bolsa bolmaydighan wasitidur. Chunki, mentiqiy nuqtidin elip eytqanda, Uyghurlarning musteqilliq dewasi kishilik hoquq dewasidin atlap otup ketelmeydu; eger awu janaptek atlap otup ketishni telep qilip quruq shoar towlisaq, Uyghurlarning wetinining besiwelinghan zimin ikenlikini dunyaning hechqandaq yeridiki hokumetlerge bildurgili bolmaydu. Dunyada texi hechqandaq bir dolet Sherqiy Turkistanning Xitay teripidin besiwelingghan bir dolet ikenliki heqqide qararname sheklide resmiy qanun maqullighini yoq. Bundaq ehwal astida, bu siyasiy romantizmchi ependidek ‘biz musteqilliq uchun kuresh qilimiz’ dep hechqandaq teyyarliqsiz haldila Donkxottek yugirip chiqamduq yaki buning uchun strategiye tuzup chiqimizmu? Uyghurlar beshidin kechuriwatqan adem chidighusiz kishilik hoquq depsendichilikliri del bizning erksizlikimizdin kelip chiqqachqa, kishilik hoquq depsendichilklri xelqaragha awwal uqturush ularni tedrijiy halda Sherqiy Turkistanning Xitaylar teripidin besiwelinghan zimin ikenlikini tonushigha, etirap qilishigha we bu heqte qararname maqullishigha turtke bolidu. Ene shu waqittin keyin, bizning kurishimiz kishilik hoquq kurishilik sewiyisidin halqip uzul kesil musteqilliq kurishige ozgiridu. Shundaq deyish mumkinki, cheteldiki Uyghur teshkilatlirining waqitliq turde kishilik hoquq depsendichiliklirini musteqilliq kurishining kuntertipining aldinqi ornigha qoyushi peqet waqitlik strategiye bolup, u Uyghur musteqqilliq herikitige uzul kesil yol echishqa bolghan teyyarliq herikitidur. Buni bilmigenler yaki qesten bilmeske seliwelish arqiliq Rabiye Qadir xanimgha zerbe bermekchi bolghanlarning hemmisi siyasiy xataliq otkuziwatqanlar bolupla qalmastin belki yene milletning xainliridur. Hechqandaq dolet hakimiyitidin tartip hetta adettiki kichik bir kishilik hoquq teshkilatlirighiche ‘musteqilliq’ degen atalghuni ishlitishimizge yol qoymaywatqan mushundaq mushkul ehwal astida, ‘kishilik hoquq dewasini musteqilliq dewayimizning deslepki basquchi supitide qarash bizdin ghayet zor chidamni, eqilni we sewrchanliqni telep qilidu. Eger bu qedem puxta qedem bilen elip berilmaydiken, Uyghurlarning weten ichide elip beriwatqan hem baridighan herqandaq shekildiki inqilablirini xitay burunqidekla wehshiylik bilen qiridu, we uninggha arilashmaqchi yaki hesdashliq qilmaqchi bolghanlarni tosidu yaki uningdin och alidu. Peqet putun dunyani Uyghurlar uchrawatqan kishilik hoquq depsendichiliklirini ularning tarixiy yiltizi we real ehwali bilen teltokus tonushturghandila Uyghurlarning herqandaq shekildiki qarshiliq herikitini xelqarada teximu kuchluk halda tonutqili we kureshning axirqi nishanining uzul kesil musteqilliq ikenlikini teximu ilgiri surgili bolidu.
Hormetlik wetendashlar, dewayimiz heq bolghini bilen, bizning bu dewada utup chiqishimiz intayin puxta tuzulgen strategiyige tayinishi kerek. Bu janap wetendashlirimiz zariqip kutiwatqan musteqilliqtin ibaret bu atalghuni suyiistimal qilish arqiliq xelqimizning diqqitini tartmaqchi bolghanyu, lekin uninggha zadi qandaq qedem bashqushlar arqiliq yetkili bolidighanliqi heqqide hechneme demigen. Yene kelip xelqara qanundin azraq bolsimu sawadi bolushi kerek bolghan bu ellame: “Bizdek bashqa bir guruh yaki sinip teripidin besiwelinghan her qandaq bir milletning oz teqdirini ozi belgilesh uchun herqandaq shekilde, meyli qoralliq yaki tinchliq shekilde bolsun qarshiliq korsitish, oz ziminini qoghdap qelish hoquqi bar. U putkul dunya teripidin hechqandaq tosalghugha uchrimaydu’ dep biljirlighan. Bu janaptin sorap baqay: eger bizning oz teqdirimizni ozimiz belgilishimiz xelqara qanunlardin kore yolluq bolsa, putkul dunya nimishqa bizdek ozining ziminini tartquzup qoyghanlarning beshini silimaydu? Eger shundaq bolghanda, Xitaymu munasiwetlik xelqaraliq qanunlarni koturup chiqip, munasiwetlik xelqaraliq qanunlargha asaslinip ozining zimin putunluki we igilik hoquqini qoghdash heqqide jar selip Uyghurlarni qiriwermemdu? Buni tossup qelish uchun bizde qanchilik xelqaraliq qollash we shushinish bar? Ta hazirchiche ozimizning ziminining besiwelinghan zemin ikenliki heqqide birer dolettin qararname maqullitalmay turup, musteqilliq kurishini kim bilen qandaq elip barimiz? Qeni peshwaliq unwanining sahibi bolghan ‘ellame’ bizning musteqiliq kurishimizning xelaqaraliq qanuniy asasi oz teqdirini ozi belgileshtin ibaret mushundaq abstract mumkinchilikmu? Ish undaq addiy bolsa, Kosovaliqlarning musteqilliq chushi alliburun hechqandaq tosalghusiz emelge ashqan bolattighu? Ular del sizni dushmen korushke kushkurtiwatqan gherb doletlirining yardimige tayinip putunley qirilip ketishtin aman qaldighu we yene ozining musteqiliqini elip beriwatidighu?
Bu ellamining Rabiye Qadir xanimgha kishilik hoquq dewasi bilen musteqilliq dewasinining perqini misal arqiliq sozliginige qarap baqsaqla uning qanchilik ‘peshwaliqi’ ayan bolidu. U deyduki, ata bowisidin qalghan oyi xitaylar teripidin besiwelinghan Uyghurlar oz dushmenlirige qarap: ‘tez yoqal, yoqalmisang men seni olturup jesitingni tongguzlargha tashlap berimen’dep waqirishi kerek. Emma bu qanunshunas ‘peshwadin’ sorap baqayki, bixeter yerde turiwelip towlighan ajizelerdin qorqup qalidighan zorawan bu dunyada barmu? Mana mushu bu qanun ‘peshwasining’ musteqilliqni qolgha kelturush kurishima? Musteqilliq mushundaq asan qolgha kelse, uning uchun bu qeder qurban berishtin waz kechip, hemme Uyghur youtube yighilip mushu erbabtek bar kuchimiz bilen towlash kerekkenghu? Mushundaq hamaqetlerche we exmeqlerche tepekkur qilidighan bu janap qanunning qaysi babida peshwaliq muqamigha yetken bolghiytti?
Uyghur milliy herikitining yolbashchisi Rabiye Qadir xanimni musteqilliq dewasi emes belki kishilik hoquq dewasini qilghuchi we axiridida aptonomiyichi deyishke ulgurgen bu janapqa axirda dep qoyidighinim shuki, millet uchun ish qilmisimu millet uchun ish qiliwatqanlargha bohtan chaplimasliq we ularni qarilimasliq yenila bir aliyjanapliqtur. Eger undaq bolmaydiken, ‘muteqilliq’ ni suyiistimal qilip turup heqiqiy musteqilchilirimizni we liderimiz Rabiye Qadir xanimgha zerbe bermekchi bolghanlarning hemmisi bizning dushminimizdur. Biz ular bilen xuddi xitay bilen elishqandek adaqqiche elishimiz, ularning rezil niyitini hergiz emelge ashurmaymiz.

Unregistered
16-01-08, 15:12
Rabiye ana, kordunguzmu? Mana mushundaq oghul balilar sizning arqingizda turidu. Ablajandek itlar qawap-qawap yolda chushup qalidu.

Bu yigit munchende oquwetip putun teshkilatlarning hemme ishlirigha arliship yuruydu.

bu zadi qandaq oqughuchi???????????????????????

nimeshqa bashqa oqughuchilar teshkilat emes munchendiki uyghurlarni korse qorqup qechip ketishidu.

buning sewebi ,perqliq terepliri qaysi???????????????????????????????????????

Unregistered
16-01-08, 15:20
Perqliq teripi shuki, bu yashning wijdani, yurugi, jasaritidur. uqushdiki sewep jan beqish uchun emes, milliti, wetini uchun teximu yaxshi xizmet qilish bulushi kerek. bu yash del mushundaq oghlan.