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oguzhan
13-10-06, 11:46
although it is another relative term ,
to be rich ....

according to whom or to which kind of measuring standards...

recently I read a message on this forum about rich people in Xinjiang...


apparently they do not know of Mr. Ahmet Temur,
one of the most prominent antique collectors in the whole of China.


I was able to take my guests from the USA
paper historians from Brookline Massachusetts
to visit him and he was kind and showed a major part of his collection.
(also he gave them beautiful Khotan jade Buddha carvings as gifts)


Having travelled across Xinjiang and visited most of the museums,

he definitely has collected enough to fill 10-20 museums ;

matter of fact we were accompanied by esteemed Gazi Ahmed,
Abdukayim Hoca from the museum of Xinjiang (and other friends,journalists)
who got so excited and offered his services to Mr.Temur
to do research on the available materials
mentioning many books could be published as a result

(of course after he retired from the museum)


Mr.Ahmet Temur is a wise man with lasting projects,
among which is a personal museum
where he will share his accumulation with the public.

Once permits and due insurance funds are available
he plans to exhibit some of his collection in the USA,

the Uygur Nightingale Dilber Hanim will give concerts
at exhibition receptions.....


Today there are many wealthy Uygurs in and out of Xinjiang,

but most of them do not have the vision
to do benevolent actions for the public
like supporting the arts and or sciences
sponsoring research projects,publishing finished works in many fields of academic interest.....

(it is tax deductable in the USA and other european nations!!!!)

they cannot be blamed for it
because they do not have the intellectual capacity.

As Ataturk once has said ,

Koylu milletin efendisidir ( dehkan halkning efendisi) (farmers are the lords)

we were able to prove this by taking the Uygur papermaker
from an unknown village of Karakash-Khotan to USA,

his richness was his loyalty to traditional craft
which he faithfully carried up until today.

I AM VERY PROUD TO BRING GLOBAL RECOGNITION AND FACE
TO DISAPPERING CRAFT OF PAPERMAKING IN XINJIANG,

with the help of Mr.Gazi Ahmed,Smithsonian Institution,Paper Road Tibet Org,World Paper from the USA,Society of Dard Hunter Friends USA,
Pyramid Atlantic Book Arts centre Silverspring Md,IRCICA Istanbul,UNESCO,
to name a few major names


FOUR YEARS AGO THE PAPER HAD NO CUSTOMERS
AND WAS SELLING AT 2 MOCHEN (local cents) A SHEET,

TODAY THEY BRAVELY ASK 30 YUANS !!!!!!!! 4 $ A SHEET .....IN KHOTAN

AND TV AND NEWS PEOPLE FLOCK TO KHOTAN
FROM BEIJING , SHANGAI ETC. to report on this traditional craft.

MR.GHAZI AHMED 1ST DEGREE PAINTER IN CHINA AND XINJIANG
WHO HAD INTRODUCED ME TO KHOTAN PAPER BY WRITING ISLAMIC CALLIGRAPHY,TODAY EXPERIMENTS DIFFERENT PAINTING TECHNIQUES

WHICH WE WILL EXHIBIT IN THE USA AND OTHER EUROPEAN AND ISLAMIC NATIONS.

CALLIGRAPHERS FROM KHOTAN ARE ALREADY WRITING BEAUTIFUL SCRIPTS
FROM YUSUF HAS HAJIB,ALI SIR NAVAI,KASHGARLIK MAHMUD

AND NEWLY BUILT GRAND BAZAR IN URUMCHI HAS EXAMPLES OF ARTWORK
ON KHOTAN PAPER.....

ozunu mahtagan ahmak bolsamu ...(one who praise hisownself is a fool...)

I have been able to marble Khotan paper for the 1st time in its history,
created pulp calligraphy,applied petroglyph designs of Xinjiang rock paintings

and since seven years been attending Turkish Festivals and other organizations and conferences and seminars promoting Khotan paper
in USA and >South America and Islamic nations.

Our wealth lies in our past contribution to global civilization,
and the wisdom to achieve contemporary and financial recognition
by promoting an already disappearing accumulation of cultural heritage.

There is yet a lot to do
and we will need sponsors to achieve
lasting results and financial & social rewards.....


cordially,
oguzhan

Bosporos
14-10-06, 22:17
Oguzhan, your Ataturk is for you and not for others. Please don't bring him to Uyghur page.

thanks.


:
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As Ataturk once has said ,
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cordially,
oguzhan

Unregistered
15-10-06, 16:27
what a nonsence you are talking about ?



Oguzhan, your Ataturk is for you and not for others. Please don't bring him to Uyghur page.

thanks.

Unregistered
15-10-06, 22:36
Oguzhan, your Ataturk is for you and not for others. Please don't bring him to Uyghur page.

thanks.
I would love to read about ATATURK all the time on any web site including few web pages we (UYGHURS) have. There is just too much we need to
learn from Ataturk! He was one of the greatest human being in the worl;
not to mention he is a Turk.

oguzhan
15-10-06, 23:28
nadanlik Huda bergen bir baylik .....ohxaydu.

first of all Ataturk has created a new Turkish word

instead of MEDENIYET which is an Arabic word ,

he had said UYGARLIK should define the great cultural contribution
of the Uygurs to world history........


Ataturk had more respect and reverence for the Uygurs

than those who may not like him,

and we know who those ignorant and wretched souls are

who do not know anything about nothing

but surprisingly seem to have ideas on everything...


In Urumchi I have met historian and researcher
Mr.Yusufcan Ali Islami ,

who has a book about Ataturk in the Uygur language.



IGNORANCE IS NOT ALWAYS A BLISS....

ON THE INTERNET THERE ARE NETIQUETTE RULES...

WHICH DOES NOT REALLY ALLOW ANYBODY

INCLUDING UYGURS (they are not immune nor exempted )

NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO INSULT ANYBODY ELSE

AND ALSO HAS NO RIGHT TO USE OTHER PEOPLES'S IDEAS OR WRITINGS

WITHOUT PERMISSION AND SO FORTH....


SO NEXT TIME ,

IF SOME CREATURES COME ON THIS WEB FORUM OR ANYWHERE ELSE

USING BAD LANGUAGE OR OTHER STUPID ACTIVITY

THEN WE CAN DEMAND THROUGH INTERNET LEGAL COURTS

TO TAKE ACTION AND HOLD THE MODERATORS RESPONSIBLE

TO LOCATE THOSE IGNORANT UNCIVILISED BEINGS

AND PUNISH THEM ACCORDINGLY...

WHICH MAY MEAN THAT THEY MAY NOT FREELY
ENTER WEB SITES AND ACT THE WAY THEY HAVE DONE SO FAR...



ONCE THEY BAN THEIR OWNSELVES BY MISUSE
AND ABUSE OF SUCH A WONDERFUL THING AS THE INTERNET


THEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE FREELY

WITH DUE RESPECT TO ONE OTHER

EVEN IF WE MAY NOT SHARE THE SAME IDEAS

BUT ALLAH created mankind
and we have to be respectful to the creation

no matter who they may be ....


I SIMPLY WISH I DID NOT HAVE TO WRITE THIS


but these famous Uygur donkeys have been itching for it....


which remind me the power of fine art :

there was a Chinese traditional painting artist,
who having lived for a long time in Uygur region

became famous for painting Uygur donkeys
in all their naturality and settings


and the paintings even the charcoal - pencil drawings

would sell at 50.000 yuans !!!!!!!

I CORDIALLY INVITE THEM TO BE SENSIBLE AND POLITE
IF THEY THINK THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.


kadimki Turklerde nezaket digen bir nerse bar iken...

hazirki Uygurlarning bazilarining haberi yok ohxaydu...


Uygur anerican org. YOKAPKETGEN AHLAKSIZ BALLAR BAHCHESI

EMES.........


HORMETLER

oguzhan

Unregistered
16-10-06, 01:38
"Ne Mutlu Turkum Diyene."

- M.K.ATATURK
Turkum:Turk,Uyghur,Ozbek,Qazaq,Qirghiz ...

Unregistered
16-10-06, 09:41
Tegdirimiz ve menpetimiz kim bilen ohshisa shu bizning hemriyimiz. Eger biz qetelde turiversek yene 10 ,20 yillardin keyin tegdirimiz Uygurlaningki bilen ohshimay bizmu qetellik bolup ketishimiz mumkin.

"Ne Mutlu Turkum Diyene."

- M.K.ATATURK
Turkum:Turk,Uyghur,Ozbek,Qazaq,Qirghiz ...

Unregistered
16-10-06, 11:43
Do you say he is like your Mao ?


I would love to read about ATATURK all the time on any web site including few web pages we (UYGHURS) have. There is just too much we need to
learn from Ataturk! He was one of the greatest human being in the worl;
not to mention he is a Turk.

Unregistered
16-10-06, 11:50
This is a stupid saying.
Every one is proud of himself. Aren't you ?


"Ne Mutlu Turkum Diyene."

- M.K.ATATURK
Turkum:Turk,Uyghur,Ozbek,Qazaq,Qirghiz ...

Unregistered
16-10-06, 19:10
this lines must stop this ugly conversation,,

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QUOTE:
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instead of MEDENIYET which is an Arabic word ,

he had said UYGARLIK should define the great cultural contribution
of the Uygurs to world history........


Ataturk had more respect and reverence for the Uygurs
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in fact he had a lot more respect than contemporary ones!

Unregistered
16-10-06, 19:16
Uygar insanlar hamiyetli olur!

ve

Ayrilgani eyik yer bolungeni bore!

Unregistered
16-10-06, 19:39
Uygar insan hamiyetli olur!
ve
Ayrilgani eyik yer,bolungeni bore!

Unregistered
20-10-06, 17:57
hey ! Oguzhan ,,

Ataturk is the inspiration of independence and sovereignty for all Turks!

some (chinese a.. lickers) should not use his name!

down with traitors
20-10-06, 20:56
No doubt, Ata Turk was a great Turk. However, the people who ruling Turkey today are a bunch of whores! They sell everything worth anything. People who betray your trust when you having the hardest time of your life are not your friends. In fact, they should be your enemies!! Down with the shameless Turks, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Pakistanies, and pigs! Long live Uyghurs and East Turkistan!! We Uyghurs will survive, because we are free at heart. No money or power in the world can take that freedom away. Those piglings are free from oppression by others, but they are not free. They are no different than an animal on an auction block. They do not own themselves, the reminbi does.

"Beshinggha kun chushkende eziqatmighan taghidin tagha yahshi, hammidin badang."--Uyghur helq temsilliridin.



hey ! Oguzhan ,,

Ataturk is the inspiration of independence and sovereignty for all Turks!

some (chinese a.. lickers) should not use his name!

Unregistered
22-10-06, 14:01
No doubt, Ata Turk was a great Turk. However, the people who ruling Turkey today are a bunch of whores! They sell everything worth anything. People who betray your trust when you having the hardest time of your life are not your friends. In fact, they should be your enemies!! Down with the shameless Turks, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Pakistanies, and pigs! Long live Uyghurs and East Turkistan!! We Uyghurs will survive, because we are free at heart. No money or power in the world can take that freedom away. Those piglings are free from oppression by others, but they are not free. They are no different than an animal on an auction block. They do not own themselves, the reminbi does.

"Beshinggha kun chushkende eziqatmighan taghidin tagha yahshi, hammidin badang."--Uyghur helq temsilliridin.

Absolutely true,brother
this is the ill effect of democracy
if we just look at the history most of the time is occupied by traitors
that's why Ataturk was an outstanding chance for us all,a holistic gift from God
"yes,they are the enemy of all Turks"
I don't know if ever this time God will help us to wake up,
but is it first the Uyghur nations duty to make people aware and sobber up
about the East Turkistan tragedy?
I don't think Uyghurs working hard enough to mobilise resistance!
I'm sorry
You must get organised and get rid of this sense of despair..

Unregistered
23-10-06, 06:03
Böre yise de yesin Cinlaradin temiz olacak.



Uygar insanlar hamiyetli olur!

ve

Ayrilgani eyik yer bolungeni bore!