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Unregistered
01-03-18, 17:13
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/turkey-race-armenian-recep-tayyip-erdogan-generlogy-family-trees-ethnicity-a8234346.html

So why has Turkey released these files now? Erdogan is quoted to have once complained that Turks were “accused of being Jews, Armenians or Greeks”. Tayfun Atay, a columnist for the Turkish newspaper Cumhuriyet, wrote that he was “advised in a friendly matter not to admit that I am a Georgian…What about those who risk learning that they are of Armenian ancestry or a convert? Just think: you think you are a red-blooded Turk but turn out to be a pure-blood Armenian.”

Unregistered
02-03-18, 00:57
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/turkey-race-armenian-recep-tayyip-erdogan-generlogy-family-trees-ethnicity-a8234346.html

So why has Turkey released these files now? Erdogan is quoted to have once complained that Turks were “accused of being Jews, Armenians or Greeks”. Tayfun Atay, a columnist for the Turkish newspaper Cumhuriyet, wrote that he was “advised in a friendly matter not to admit that I am a Georgian…What about those who risk learning that they are of Armenian ancestry or a convert? Just think: you think you are a red-blooded Turk but turn out to be a pure-blood Armenian.”

What a bullshit article. In that geography, the heart of the world, you can't have a "pure blood" Turk or an "Armenian". The matter of truth is that while the founding fathers of the Americans were scratching their heads on how to exterminate the native American population, the Turks and Armenians were marrying each other and celebrating the 500th anniversary of their empire. "Armenian Genocide" is a joke from legal and historical points of view. That's why the Armenian government or its lobby groups in US have never sued Turkey in the international court of justice. Because, they know they will lose the case.

Unregistered
02-03-18, 07:17
What a bullshit article. In that geography, the heart of the world, you can't have a "pure blood" Turk or an "Armenian". The matter of truth is that while the founding fathers of the Americans were scratching their heads on how to exterminate the native American population, the Turks and Armenians were marrying each other and celebrating the 500th anniversary of their empire. "Armenian Genocide" is a joke from legal and historical points of view. That's why the Armenian government or its lobby groups in US have never sued Turkey in the international court of justice. Because, they know they will lose the case.

The Armenian Genocide, also known as the Armenian Holocaust, was the Ottoman government's systematic extermination of 1.5 million Armenians, mostly citizens within the Ottoman Empire and its successor state, the Republic of Turkey.

German Parliament Recognizes Armenian Genocide
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/03/world/europe/armenian-genocide-germany-turkey.html

As of 2017, governments and parliaments of 29 countries, including Brazil, Canada, France, Germany, Italy and Russia, as well as 48 states out of 50 of the United States, have recognized the events as a genocide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide_recognition

Unregistered
02-03-18, 07:25
Jewish Holocaust is same as Armenian Holocaust, one side is Germany, another side is Ottaman empire. they both allied against the Jewish race.why?

Unregistered
02-03-18, 07:47
Jewish Holocaust is same as Armenian Holocaust, one side is Germany, another side is Ottaman empire. they both allied against the Jewish race.why?

Ana Tiling Uyghurche bolmisa bu yerde Xayam bamu sanga?
Eripim yeht both hsiwJ. emas one sideynamerG.

Unregistered
02-03-18, 10:19
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/turkey-race-armenian-recep-tayyip-erdogan-generlogy-family-trees-ethnicity-a8234346.html

So why has Turkey released these files now? Erdogan is quoted to have once complained that Turks were “accused of being Jews, Armenians or Greeks”. Tayfun Atay, a columnist for the Turkish newspaper Cumhuriyet, wrote that he was “advised in a friendly matter not to admit that I am a Georgian…What about those who risk learning that they are of Armenian ancestry or a convert? Just think: you think you are a red-blooded Turk but turn out to be a pure-blood Armenian.”

anangni amerikiliq sikip tapaqanmu seni? Ana Tiling Uyghurche bolmisa bu yerde Xayam bamu sanga?

Unregistered
02-03-18, 10:31
anangni amerikiliq sikip tapaqanmu seni? Ana Tiling Uyghurche bolmisa bu yerde Xayam bamu sanga?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Turkey
Despite Jews being only a tiny fraction of the population today, antisemitic sentiments are quite common among modern-day Turks. Public critique of Israeli policy in Turkey has a tradition of turning into expressions of general antisemitic sentiment.

why Turks so hate Jews? did a Jew f**ked Erdogan mother?

stand with Israel! Uighur must stand with Israel!

Unregistered
03-03-18, 01:53
The Armenian Genocide, also known as the Armenian Holocaust, was the Ottoman government's systematic extermination of 1.5 million Armenians, mostly citizens within the Ottoman Empire and its successor state, the Republic of Turkey.

German Parliament Recognizes Armenian Genocide
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/03/world/europe/armenian-genocide-germany-turkey.html

As of 2017, governments and parliaments of 29 countries, including Brazil, Canada, France, Germany, Italy and Russia, as well as 48 states out of 50 of the United States, have recognized the events as a genocide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide_recognition

1. We all know Germany knows about Genocide very well. But who the hell gives any shit to what the German parliament says? Germany is the last country on the planet to talk about Genocide, isn't it?
2. There are 195 countries in the world. 166 countries don't recognise it as a genocide. In maths: 166 > 29.
3. The only countries that accept it genocide are the puppets of Zionist Jewish lobbies, aren't they?
4. Since when politicians decide on historical events? How about historians? Historians say Armenian genocide is bullshit: Listen to the master historian of the Middle East, Bernard Lewis - you are not considered a qualified historian on Middle East if you haven't read his works, he is a Jew : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG70UWESfu4
5. If that was a Genocide against the Armenians, why were the Armenians of Istanbul never touched?
6. The term genocide is legally defined in 1945, how can you apply a legal term to an event that happened 30 years before?
If Americans ban weapons today, can you prosecute Mr John who carried a gun yesterday? No.
7. If you so believe that the Armenian genocide is true, why the Dashnak Archives in Boston still kept closed? Turkey offered 20 million US dollars for historians to open those archives, but no one dared. You know why? Because it contains the sacking of Van and the crimes of Dashnak (The Armenian Terrorist Organisation at the time) against Kurdish population of Van. https://www.amazon.com/Armenian-Rebellion-Utah-Turkish-Islamic/dp/0874808707/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1520056242&sr=1-1&keywords=armenian+in+van
8. If the Armenians were armed and sacked the city of Van, Ottoman Empire should have the right to crush them.
9. What's the definition of Genocide under the UN Convention? If the Armenians believe the genocide claim is true, why haven't they sued Turkey in the International Court of Justice?

Unregistered
03-03-18, 01:54
Jewish Holocaust is same as Armenian Holocaust, one side is Germany, another side is Ottaman empire. they both allied against the Jewish race.why?

Bullshit, says the best historian of the Middle East, he is a Jew by the way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG70UWESfu4
Uighurs will not support a racist, terrorist and apartheid state called Israel.

Unregistered
03-03-18, 06:12
1. We all know Germany knows about Genocide very well. But who the hell gives any shit to what the German parliament says? Germany is the last country on the planet to talk about Genocide, isn't it?
2. There are 195 countries in the world. 166 countries don't recognise it as a genocide. In maths: 166 > 29.
3. The only countries that accept it genocide are the puppets of Zionist Jewish lobbies, aren't they?
4. Since when politicians decide on historical events? How about historians? Historians say Armenian genocide is bullshit: Listen to the master historian of the Middle East, Bernard Lewis - you are not considered a qualified historian on Middle East if you haven't read his works, he is a Jew : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG70UWESfu4
5. If that was a Genocide against the Armenians, why were the Armenians of Istanbul never touched?
6. The term genocide is legally defined in 1945, how can you apply a legal term to an event that happened 30 years before?
If Americans ban weapons today, can you prosecute Mr John who carried a gun yesterday? No.
7. If you so believe that the Armenian genocide is true, why the Dashnak Archives in Boston still kept closed? Turkey offered 20 million US dollars for historians to open those archives, but no one dared. You know why? Because it contains the sacking of Van and the crimes of Dashnak (The Armenian Terrorist Organisation at the time) against Kurdish population of Van. https://www.amazon.com/Armenian-Rebellion-Utah-Turkish-Islamic/dp/0874808707/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1520056242&sr=1-1&keywords=armenian+in+van
8. If the Armenians were armed and sacked the city of Van, Ottoman Empire should have the right to crush them.
9. What's the definition of Genocide under the UN Convention? If the Armenians believe the genocide claim is true, why haven't they sued Turkey in the International Court of Justice?

Erdogan is a dog on a very short Anglo-Zionist leash. He will do as he is told and as with Cyprus reap whatever reward his US-UK-NATO allies offer up.

Erdogan lives and breathes the Erkenegon Dream, as do his Western sponsered Islamic Brotherhood, Nationalist and NATO-Gladio deep state sponsers, who all together brought him this far and have always been scheming to turn the Turkic speaking world into a recreated Ottoman Empire, including huge sections of the former Soviet Union.

Erdogan’s Western backers have offered him everything his megalomaniacal heart could desire, in addition to running a fake coup against his government specifically to bolster his position, the only possible outcome that could have resulted from such a weak and disorganized effort against a popular leader. I won’t replay the details in this short comment but we already have enough information to know the supposed attempt to overthrow Erdogan was pathetic and ultimately failed after he went on CNN Turk to rally his supporters.

CNN Turk is an Anglo-Zionist controlled entity and I should not need to say more about who ran this completely unconvincing psyochological operation.

The Russians know all this so whether or not there has been an agreement to play along with the Turks and Empire up to this point, which is a strong possibility given what we know about how World War I & II were carefully choreographed by all major players, the most impotant factors determining the immediate outcome is the Russian desire to avoid a major escalation and the Anglo-Zionist desire to entrap Russia as soon as it is possible to do so. They’ve been trying to do this exactly since 2014 with the Ukranian coup.

Everyone knows Russia is far too weak to take on what are still the world’s most powerful armies by itself and nothwithstanding mountains of propaganda concerning Russian capabilities they do not so foolishly overestimate their own strength.

That is why the Anglos want war now and the Russians do not.

Below is an article published on Voltairenet just a few days ago.

Turkey announces its preparations for invading Greece

http://www.voltairenet.org/article199824.html

On 17 February President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan delivered a speech on Operation Olive Branch (the current invasion of Syria by the Turkish army) at the Provincial Congress of Eskişehir of the AKP. He declared the following: “Those who think that we have erased from our hearts the lands of from which we withdrew in tears, 100 years ago, are quite mistaken. On ever occasion we say time and time again, that Syria, Iraq and other places on the map of our hearts are no different from our own homeland. Wherever a call to prayer is heard, we fight to ensure that no foreign flag flutters. What we have done till now, is nothing compared to the far bigger attacks that we have in mind for the forthcoming days. This is what God wants!”

To repeat what I said at the begining:

Erdogan is on a very short Anglo-Zionist leash. He and his ministers are promising war and could not do so without full US-UK-NATO backing. Without such support his army would collapse for lack of supplies and because it does not possess logistical capabilities independent of NATO.

The United States and UK will want to remain on the sidelines for as long as possible, as they did in World Wars I & II. If Erdogan means to start this war today Russia must make clear that neither Ankara, London nor Washington will escape nuclear devastation. The Anglo-Zionist Empire believes it can force Russia into a long war of attrition so the only response left for Putin is to explain to these psycopaths they are 100% wrong.

Unregistered
03-03-18, 08:06
Erdogan is a dog on a very short Anglo-Zionist leash. He will do as he is told and as with Cyprus reap whatever reward his US-UK-NATO allies offer up.

Erdogan lives and breathes the Erkenegon Dream, as do his Western sponsered Islamic Brotherhood, Nationalist and NATO-Gladio deep state sponsers, who all together brought him this far and have always been scheming to turn the Turkic speaking world into a recreated Ottoman Empire, including huge sections of the former Soviet Union.

Erdogan’s Western backers have offered him everything his megalomaniacal heart could desire, in addition to running a fake coup against his government specifically to bolster his position, the only possible outcome that could have resulted from such a weak and disorganized effort against a popular leader. I won’t replay the details in this short comment but we already have enough information to know the supposed attempt to overthrow Erdogan was pathetic and ultimately failed after he went on CNN Turk to rally his supporters.

CNN Turk is an Anglo-Zionist controlled entity and I should not need to say more about who ran this completely unconvincing psyochological operation.

The Russians know all this so whether or not there has been an agreement to play along with the Turks and Empire up to this point, which is a strong possibility given what we know about how World War I & II were carefully choreographed by all major players, the most impotant factors determining the immediate outcome is the Russian desire to avoid a major escalation and the Anglo-Zionist desire to entrap Russia as soon as it is possible to do so. They’ve been trying to do this exactly since 2014 with the Ukranian coup.

Everyone knows Russia is far too weak to take on what are still the world’s most powerful armies by itself and nothwithstanding mountains of propaganda concerning Russian capabilities they do not so foolishly overestimate their own strength.

That is why the Anglos want war now and the Russians do not.

Below is an article published on Voltairenet just a few days ago.

Turkey announces its preparations for invading Greece

http://www.voltairenet.org/article199824.html

On 17 February President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan delivered a speech on Operation Olive Branch (the current invasion of Syria by the Turkish army) at the Provincial Congress of Eskişehir of the AKP. He declared the following: “Those who think that we have erased from our hearts the lands of from which we withdrew in tears, 100 years ago, are quite mistaken. On ever occasion we say time and time again, that Syria, Iraq and other places on the map of our hearts are no different from our own homeland. Wherever a call to prayer is heard, we fight to ensure that no foreign flag flutters. What we have done till now, is nothing compared to the far bigger attacks that we have in mind for the forthcoming days. This is what God wants!”

To repeat what I said at the begining:

Erdogan is on a very short Anglo-Zionist leash. He and his ministers are promising war and could not do so without full US-UK-NATO backing. Without such support his army would collapse for lack of supplies and because it does not possess logistical capabilities independent of NATO.

The United States and UK will want to remain on the sidelines for as long as possible, as they did in World Wars I & II. If Erdogan means to start this war today Russia must make clear that neither Ankara, London nor Washington will escape nuclear devastation. The Anglo-Zionist Empire believes it can force Russia into a long war of attrition so the only response left for Putin is to explain to these psycopaths they are 100% wrong.

In short, you are an idiot, in long, you are a dumb dickhead fuck-face. Nothing more. Answer the 9 points up there, little dickhead.

Unregistered
03-03-18, 08:55
In short, you are an idiot, in long, you are a dumb dickhead fuck-face. Nothing more. Answer the 9 points up there, little dickhead.

I've already explained well why Turks are bullshit. by the way, you are the ass kisser.

Unregistered
03-03-18, 10:29
I've already explained well why Turks are bullshit. by the way, you are the ass kisser.

Again, in short, you are a dickhead. Turkey as come back, put it on pipe and smoke it. Or, if you have balls, attack Turkey instead of crying like a bitch here.

Unregistered
03-03-18, 11:49
Erdogan is a dog on a very short Anglo-Zionist leash. He will do as he is told and as with Cyprus reap whatever reward his US-UK-NATO allies offer up.

Erdogan lives and breathes the Erkenegon Dream, as do his Western sponsered Islamic Brotherhood, Nationalist and NATO-Gladio deep state sponsers, who all together brought him this far and have always been scheming to turn the Turkic speaking world into a recreated Ottoman Empire, including huge sections of the former Soviet Union.

Erdogan’s Western backers have offered him everything his megalomaniacal heart could desire, in addition to running a fake coup against his government specifically to bolster his position, the only possible outcome that could have resulted from such a weak and disorganized effort against a popular leader. I won’t replay the details in this short comment but we already have enough information to know the supposed attempt to overthrow Erdogan was pathetic and ultimately failed after he went on CNN Turk to rally his supporters.

CNN Turk is an Anglo-Zionist controlled entity and I should not need to say more about who ran this completely unconvincing psyochological operation.

The Russians know all this so whether or not there has been an agreement to play along with the Turks and Empire up to this point, which is a strong possibility given what we know about how World War I & II were carefully choreographed by all major players, the most impotant factors determining the immediate outcome is the Russian desire to avoid a major escalation and the Anglo-Zionist desire to entrap Russia as soon as it is possible to do so. They’ve been trying to do this exactly since 2014 with the Ukranian coup.

Everyone knows Russia is far too weak to take on what are still the world’s most powerful armies by itself and nothwithstanding mountains of propaganda concerning Russian capabilities they do not so foolishly overestimate their own strength.

That is why the Anglos want war now and the Russians do not.

Below is an article published on Voltairenet just a few days ago.

Turkey announces its preparations for invading Greece

http://www.voltairenet.org/article199824.html

On 17 February President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan delivered a speech on Operation Olive Branch (the current invasion of Syria by the Turkish army) at the Provincial Congress of Eskişehir of the AKP. He declared the following: “Those who think that we have erased from our hearts the lands of from which we withdrew in tears, 100 years ago, are quite mistaken. On ever occasion we say time and time again, that Syria, Iraq and other places on the map of our hearts are no different from our own homeland. Wherever a call to prayer is heard, we fight to ensure that no foreign flag flutters. What we have done till now, is nothing compared to the far bigger attacks that we have in mind for the forthcoming days. This is what God wants!”

To repeat what I said at the begining:

Erdogan is on a very short Anglo-Zionist leash. He and his ministers are promising war and could not do so without full US-UK-NATO backing. Without such support his army would collapse for lack of supplies and because it does not possess logistical capabilities independent of NATO.

The United States and UK will want to remain on the sidelines for as long as possible, as they did in World Wars I & II. If Erdogan means to start this war today Russia must make clear that neither Ankara, London nor Washington will escape nuclear devastation. The Anglo-Zionist Empire believes it can force Russia into a long war of attrition so the only response left for Putin is to explain to these psycopaths they are 100% wrong.

Shut up little Chinese dog.

Unregistered
03-03-18, 12:06
nice article, your are right.


Erdogan is a dog on a very short Anglo-Zionist leash. He will do as he is told and as with Cyprus reap whatever reward his US-UK-NATO allies offer up.

Erdogan lives and breathes the Erkenegon Dream, as do his Western sponsered Islamic Brotherhood, Nationalist and NATO-Gladio deep state sponsers, who all together brought him this far and have always been scheming to turn the Turkic speaking world into a recreated Ottoman Empire, including huge sections of the former Soviet Union.

Erdogan’s Western backers have offered him everything his megalomaniacal heart could desire, in addition to running a fake coup against his government specifically to bolster his position, the only possible outcome that could have resulted from such a weak and disorganized effort against a popular leader. I won’t replay the details in this short comment but we already have enough information to know the supposed attempt to overthrow Erdogan was pathetic and ultimately failed after he went on CNN Turk to rally his supporters.

CNN Turk is an Anglo-Zionist controlled entity and I should not need to say more about who ran this completely unconvincing psyochological operation.

The Russians know all this so whether or not there has been an agreement to play along with the Turks and Empire up to this point, which is a strong possibility given what we know about how World War I & II were carefully choreographed by all major players, the most impotant factors determining the immediate outcome is the Russian desire to avoid a major escalation and the Anglo-Zionist desire to entrap Russia as soon as it is possible to do so. They’ve been trying to do this exactly since 2014 with the Ukranian coup.

Everyone knows Russia is far too weak to take on what are still the world’s most powerful armies by itself and nothwithstanding mountains of propaganda concerning Russian capabilities they do not so foolishly overestimate their own strength.

That is why the Anglos want war now and the Russians do not.

Below is an article published on Voltairenet just a few days ago.

Turkey announces its preparations for invading Greece

http://www.voltairenet.org/article199824.html

On 17 February President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan delivered a speech on Operation Olive Branch (the current invasion of Syria by the Turkish army) at the Provincial Congress of Eskişehir of the AKP. He declared the following: “Those who think that we have erased from our hearts the lands of from which we withdrew in tears, 100 years ago, are quite mistaken. On ever occasion we say time and time again, that Syria, Iraq and other places on the map of our hearts are no different from our own homeland. Wherever a call to prayer is heard, we fight to ensure that no foreign flag flutters. What we have done till now, is nothing compared to the far bigger attacks that we have in mind for the forthcoming days. This is what God wants!”

To repeat what I said at the begining:

Erdogan is on a very short Anglo-Zionist leash. He and his ministers are promising war and could not do so without full US-UK-NATO backing. Without such support his army would collapse for lack of supplies and because it does not possess logistical capabilities independent of NATO.

The United States and UK will want to remain on the sidelines for as long as possible, as they did in World Wars I & II. If Erdogan means to start this war today Russia must make clear that neither Ankara, London nor Washington will escape nuclear devastation. The Anglo-Zionist Empire believes it can force Russia into a long war of attrition so the only response left for Putin is to explain to these psycopaths they are 100% wrong.

Unregistered
03-03-18, 12:16
Shut up little Chinese dog.

you are totally wrong, I am a patriotic Uyghur. I love my people. that's it. I will stop this trend as much as I can.

let me say something that you still do not know, in this war Turks will lose. Israel will win. Israel always win until the day...comes. if you want to destroy your nation, go join the Turks!

Unregistered
03-03-18, 12:18
since when this forum has become a place to discuss erdogan and jews? maybe some chinese who are never able to get how a normal person’s brain works decided to play his silly tricks here? in china you are not supposed to use your brain, you are not allowed venture beyond the surface, you are supposed to just follow the government ‘s line and direction. therfore, most chinese couldn’t grasp how the world works, how normal people think and see the world. they are good at memorizing and learning school courses, but sucks at social science, people skills. they are all drones.
for your info, very few foreigners reads this forum, most people here are uyghurs. so, don’t waste your limited brain here.

Unregistered
03-03-18, 12:25
Great! Keep up the good work.


you are totally wrong, I am a patriotic Uyghur. I love my people. that's it. I will stop this trend as much as I can.

let me say something that you still do not know, in this war Turks will lose. Israel will win. Israel always win until the day...comes. if you want to destroy your nation, go join the Turks!

Unregistered
03-03-18, 14:32
since when this forum has become a place to discuss erdogan and jews? maybe some chinese who are never able to get how a normal person’s brain works decided to play his silly tricks here? in china you are not supposed to use your brain, you are not allowed venture beyond the surface, you are supposed to just follow the government ‘s line and direction. therfore, most chinese couldn’t grasp how the world works, how normal people think and see the world. they are good at memorizing and learning school courses, but sucks at social science, people skills. they are all drones.
for your info, very few foreigners reads this forum, most people here are uyghurs. so, don’t waste your limited brain here.

Haha, it's interesting that many people don't see these Chinese dogs here.

Unregistered
03-03-18, 14:35
you are totally wrong, I am a patriotic Uyghur. I love my people. that's it. I will stop this trend as much as I can.

let me say something that you still do not know, in this war Turks will lose. Israel will win. Israel always win until the day...comes. if you want to destroy your nation, go join the Turks!

Oh so you're a Jewish ass sucker. I see, I never thought that. Don't call yourself Uyghur, call yourself the left ball of the Jewish dick. Believe me, you are one of the only few ass suckers among Uyghurs. I know them well. I'm Turkish by the way.

Unregistered
03-03-18, 15:01
Oh so you're a Jewish ass sucker. I see, I never thought that. Don't call yourself Uyghur, call yourself the left ball of the Jewish dick. Believe me, you are one of the only few ass suckers among Uyghurs. I know them well. I'm Turkish by the way.

time will come, the Istanbul will be conquered then you will understand who are the real suckers. truth is truth, don't play with truth. not all Turks on your side, I like Turks, but you ass kissers are the biggest joke in the world.

Unregistered
03-03-18, 15:15
Turkey is another face of Islamist terrorist group---ISIS.

Turkish air and artillery support for the attacking force opponents is overwhelming the Kurds. The ground troops Turkey is using are mostly Islamist Free Syrian Army fighters directed by Turkish officers. A few Turkish special forces are acting as forward observers to call in artillery and airstrikes. Only yesterday the Turkish air force flew more than 30 bombing missions on a rather small front. Today some 36 fighters were killed by Turkish air strikes.

Last week the local Kurdish forces were reinforced by other Kurdish forces and Syrian government paramilitaries. Some of the Kurdish groups had split off from the U.S. supported SDF in east Syria, crossed through Syrian government held land and reached Afrin. Kurdish groups in Aleppo city gave control of two of the three districts they held to the Syrian government to join their brethren in Afrin. A contingent of 500 Syrian paramilitary fighters from two Shiite towns near Afrin also joined the fight. The Turkish army tried to interdict the convoys reinforcing Afrin but most of the fighters reached the front lines. The Syrian Red Cross sent a convoy with humanitarian goods for the about one million inhabitants of the canton.

The Kurdish YPG forces in control of Afrin have a choice. The Russian and the Syrian government have offered their full support if the Kurds submit to Syrian government control just like any citizen of Syria is supposed to do. If they agree, the Turkish planes will immediately vanish from the skies over Afrin. But the Kurds insist on keeping their own military and police forces as well as their unelected local administration. If they keep doing so the Turkish forces will role them up and all will be lost. It is a simple and obvious choice to make.

Unregistered
03-03-18, 17:39
time will come, the Istanbul will be conquered then you will understand who are the real suckers. truth is truth, don't play with truth. not all Turks on your side, I like Turks, but you ass kissers are the biggest joke in the world.

Ass suckers like you have saying "Istanbul will be conquered" for the last 700 years. At least 51% Turks are on our side, our government is elected :) . you can't find 5 Uyghurs who suck the Jewish ass like you :P

Unregistered
04-03-18, 17:30
The sad and ironic reality is that America does not walk the talk of competitiveness and level playing fields. America’s definition of a national threat is different from that of any other country in human history; except perhaps for ancient Rome.

For this reason, America does not believe that Russia has been pushed at all, but quite the contrary. America believes that is America that has been pushed; by not only Russia, but by many other nations. As a matter of fact, I started writing this article and I wasn’t going to finish it and submit it until President Putin pushed America even further towards the state of panic in his 1st of March speech.

American politicians operate on the pretext that America has a given right to be the greatest, wealthiest, most-developed, strongest unrivaled nation on earth.

Given its history and post WWII successes of being able to lure in the best brains of the world; not only from Germany, but the rest of the world, America believed that the homeland of any eminent scientist should be America.

Furthermore, with the multitude of defections from the USSR, not only Russian scientists were welcomed into America, but also musicians, scholars, athletes and other people of exceptional talents and capabilities.

And this list goes on, because Germany and Russia were not the only nations that exported excellence to America, but the whole world did, and perhaps for good reasons, because from the 1950’s onwards, everybody wanted to live in America; and many pop culture songs have recorded this phenomenon.

In little time, the best of the best in Europe and the rest of the world ended up in America. Not too many want to be reminded that that Wernher von Braun, the “American” rocket scientist who designed the Apollo program rockets, was a former Nazi, the same von Braun who designed the rockets that hit London in 1945.The prime reasons for his exodus and that of others, were poor living conditions, political persecution among other reasons. So if America managed to lure them in and find a way to capitalize on their great talents, then America has well and truly deserved the spoils of their genius.

But Trump’s America, even Obama’s, Bush’s and Clinton’s is not exactly that global brain and talent pivot any longer. As a result, America has changed the rules of the game in order to stay on top.

But this went further, according to the American way of looking at the rest of the world. During the Cold War, members of the former Warsaw Pact were considered as enemy states together with all other states affiliated with the USSR such as Cuba, Syria, Egypt and Angola, just to name a few. After the downfall of the USSR and the virtual elimination of serious adversaries, America “had to invent” new enemies. The post “Cold War” definition of an enemy morphed into classifying nations as members of the “Axis of Evil” if they did not kowtow to Washington’s definition of the so-called “New World Order”.

But as America grows weaker, financially, technologically, and even militarily, and as the world is beginning to look to China and Russia for the latest technology instead of America, for as long as America is able to stretch the definition of what constitutes a national threat, and for as long as the rest of the West will buy this definition, it will continue to do this.

Having lost its competitive edge and not yet being able to admit it, America is still desperately trying to cling to this edge by means that contradict with its stature as the leader of the free world and the nation that it alleges to be.

To this effect, and for America to be able to hold on to its leading position, it can no longer do this from any semblance of a position of fairness and real and honest competition. This is why America is now upscaling its enemy definition and resorting to what can be best seen as bullying tactics; thereby taking unfair advantage of other nations.

According to those new rules, now that they no longer can conceal or sugarcoat its true intentions, any nation that tries to develop itself is seen by America as a potential threat. And this applies to all aspects of development, because according to America, no other nation is allowed to be better or even close to where America is.

If America cannot compete against athletes of other nations, it will ban them.

If America cannot be trade competitive, it will impose sanctions on its competitors.

If America sees that a nation does not fully kowtow to its agenda, it will classify it as a terrorist state and tries to push it to its knees by putting a ban on international trade with it.

When the economy fails and America cannot generate wealth, REAL WEALTH, to stay on the top, it will print money.

And when American citizens turn into whistle-blowers, they are branded as traitors. So much for free speech. And where did Edward Snowden seek political asylum? In Russia out of all places. Will we in the future see a reversal of the former exodus of citizens of the USSR to the USA? We cannot say this can be ruled out.

One therefore does not have to be Kim Jong Un, sitting on a nuclear arsenal with a button in his hand threatening to hit American cities with, to be seen as a threat to America. Any person or any state touted to out-perform Americans or America now or in the future, in any field of endeavour, is considered by the American policy makers as a threat. But even speaking of Kim Jong Un, the question of whether or not his stand is offensive or defensive is quite diabolical. North Korea saw what happened to Vietnam, Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan. Most importantly, North Korea has not forgotten what happened to Korea itself. How can any rationally-minded person blame North Korea for developing nukes; if the sole intention is to stave off another American onslaught?

Back to the main subject. To put this into perspective, when America sees that anti-Russian sanctions are not working and that in fact the global Russian influence is getting stronger, when it sees Russia is in Syria making things happen, it feels threatened.

When it sees Russian state-of-the-art weaponry and electronic jamming devices in action, when it sees China building a huge fleet with two aircraft carriers and counting, when it sees Russia and China way ahead, each developing their own hypersonic, even orbital, fighter jets, (https://sputniknews.com/military/201708271056829517-mig-31-41-russia-interceptor-aircraft-features/) which America itself does not yet have, when it realizes that it has to use Russian-made rockets to propel its satellites into space, when America knows that for all practical purposes, America is no longer the world’s strongest economy, then America feels that it has been pushed to the absolute limit that only further sanctions and war can remedy.

The 1st of March 2018 Putin speech will in the future be seen as a turning point. Even though President Putin did not mention electronic jamming devices and other Russian military technology that America is well and truly behind in, he will be seen in history as the first ever non-American leader to put American military on notice by saying to American policy makers that Russia is militarily more advanced than America in both defense and attack.

And if America brags its unrivaled huge fleet, the new technology Russia has developed has the potential to turn American naval vessels into ancient and expensive sitting, or should I say floating, ducks waiting to be sunk.

In retrospect, ancient Rome saw in rivaling Carthage an existential threat until the Romans pillaged Carthage killing every single man woman and child. We cannot expect annihilation of this magnitude in the time and age, or can we? Having said that, America’s nuclear power is a huge force to be reckoned with, and to expect America to accept second or third grade world status, without a bang, is no more than wishful thinking. But how useful and effective is this power?

In his recent interview with Sputnik, Ron Paul doubts that America will ever have a reasonable foreign policy, and argues that the fall of America will be financial, like other empires in the past, and that someday America will go broke and no longer be able to continue to run the world: (https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201802231061934663-ron-paul-sputnik-interview/).

To put it bluntly, after the petro-dollar loses its world dominance, and this doesn’t seem very far away, a time will come when it will become virtually impossible to keep propping up the American economy with quantitative easing (aka printing money). And as America loses its economic stature, its only remaining prowess and might will be in its nuclear arsenal. The question is this. If America is imposing sanctions and bans right left and centre right now, and for no good reason at all, will a much more desperate America use its nuclear power to restore its dominion? Lately, America has been considering diluting its restrictions on the use of nuclear power by developing “more usable” nukes:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/09/us-to-loosen-nuclear-weapons-policy-and-develop-more-usable-warheads.

After all, using conventional weapons in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan etc didn’t win wars for America, despite the technical superiority they had over the conventional weapons of the adversaries. Is America simply looking for a new edge to use in its conventional wars against non-nuclear enemies? Is this new move of developing small and “more usable” nukes a prelude for a new age of nuclear confrontations? Or is it just the beginning of a new type of cold wars with “Cold War II” already underway? Either way, it is a race that non-nuclear nations cannot compete with, and this alone makes them much softer targets for America than before.

Will America go further and use its nuclear power in order to secure trade deals? Recources? Trade routes?

Far-fetched? Perhaps, but as America becomes more desperate finding that elusive “edge”, it will run out of options, and it has indeed run out of a few already. What if the implementation of the “America First” doctrine runs out of all options except the nuclear option?

Has President Putin’s latest speech stopped any such potential American nuclear plans and nipped them in the bud?

Inadvertently, President Putin’s 1st of March 2018 speech answers the question of how far can Russia be pushed.

The answer to the question of how far can the Americans be pushed is increasingly becoming more of what can they do, rather than what they would like to do.

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04-03-18, 17:56
'WHO IS A JEW?' CAN NOW BE ANSWERED BY GENETIC TESTING
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/New-law-says-genetic-test-valid-for-determining-Jewish-status-in-some-cases-506584

Genetic citizenship: DNA testing and the Israeli Law of Return
https://academic.oup.com/jlb/article/2/2/469/826237

Putin: Someone is harvesting Russian bio samples for obscure purposes
https://www.rt.com/news/408274-putin-bio-samples-harvesting/

China expands DNA data grab in troubled western region
https://www.nature.com/news/china-expands-dna-data-grab-in-troubled-western-region-1.22033

Genetic study sets out to uncover if there is a 2,700-year-old link to Afghanistan and Pakistan
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pashtuns-the-lost-trible-of-bani-israel.419796/

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05-03-18, 09:38
Hmmm what is this nonsense as if we uyghurs have not had enough already? if you have some grievances with the turk from turkey go to their boards and complain. the hack we got to do with all that bullshit. all humans are related so yes we are all related so stfu and stop being so toxic and hateful guys ....

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05-03-18, 12:59
Hmmm what is this nonsense as if we uyghurs have not had enough already? if you have some grievances with the turk from turkey go to their boards and complain. the hack we got to do with all that bullshit. all humans are related so yes we are all related so stfu and stop being so toxic and hateful guys ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw_0vLJdCkI&t=354s
Ezekiel’s Message Unlocked

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06-03-18, 04:55
No pro Russian views will ever be tolerated within the Empire. Many Russians made that mistake supporting Trump, thinking he would improve things. To see Russians waving the anglo flag after Trump won, was nauseating. It proves unfortunately many Russians have not learned the tricks of the Empire yet. Hopefully the recent events and deranged tirades of Trumps’ pet Nikki Haley have shown what is really happening.

In fact the Trumpist breed of ultrazionism and constant seeking of confrontation is worse than even than Obama, because they really believe God is on their side in a Holy War and will win Armageddon under the USA flag, unlike the athiest Progressives who are more content with hedonism and worldy perversions. Trump is exactly the type who really would start a nuclear war on behalf of certain peoples. Anglo have a extremely similar mentality wether Progressive, Centrist, Conservative or Christian in orientation. They beleive in they are always at the peak, always exceptional, and will always win any conflict. Even after their blatant defeats in Vietnam and Afganistan they did not change. They become ever more arrogant.

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06-03-18, 04:58
As always, the most amusing thing about Uyghur ’emotionalism’ is how outright paranoia effortlessly co-exists with supreme contempt and ridicule — even at the individual level. I’ve just had a real good laugh from reading some Uyghur websites, whose owners and (most of their) readers forever keep attacking Putin and Russia. Now, with Putin’s March 1st speech, these ‘esteemed folks’ started a hilarious screamfest with endless Western victimology hogwash and angry Western self-righteousness. But suddenly there was absolutely nothing to worry about — Putin was just bluffing with a view to remain Russia’s dictator forever, Russia’s military is garbage, and other equally convincing assertions.

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07-03-18, 06:31
As always, the most amusing thing about Uyghur ’emotionalism’ is how outright paranoia effortlessly co-exists with supreme contempt and ridicule — even at the individual level. I’ve just had a real good laugh from reading some Uyghur websites, whose owners and (most of their) readers forever keep attacking Putin and Russia. Now, with Putin’s March 1st speech, these ‘esteemed folks’ started a hilarious screamfest with endless Western victimology hogwash and angry Western self-righteousness. But suddenly there was absolutely nothing to worry about — Putin was just bluffing with a view to remain Russia’s dictator forever, Russia’s military is garbage, and other equally convincing assertions.

We know you are a troll and we are not interestet in your 50cents. Why the Poles and most of eastern europe hate you guys?
if you occupy somebodys land and enslave its people while expecting full satisfaction from the millions of people whose lives you guys have destroyed? even today we are suffering like no other nation thanks to the soviet betrayal and delivering us to china. Mark my words Mother Russia is on the path to become a part of china from ancient times!

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10-03-18, 09:49
We know you are a troll and we are not interestet in your 50cents. Why the Poles and most of eastern europe hate you guys?
if you occupy somebodys land and enslave its people while expecting full satisfaction from the millions of people whose lives you guys have destroyed? even today we are suffering like no other nation thanks to the soviet betrayal and delivering us to china. Mark my words Mother Russia is on the path to become a part of china from ancient times!

how could Zionist's puppet Erdogan fight against the Zionists?

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10-03-18, 10:22
Turkey: Not very Turkic (a genetic history of the Turkic peoples)

https://evolutionistx.wordpress.com/2016/02/19/turkey-not-very-turkic-a-genetic-history-of-the-turkic-peoples/

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10-03-18, 21:43
how could Zionist's puppet Erdogan fight against the Zionists?

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11-03-18, 10:53
zionist Uyghurs are everywhere! cool!