Ottoman Empire

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I need some help with Uyghur/Turkish history here.

A documentary called "Ottoman Empire" says, "the Empire was founded (around 1300 ) by Saljuk Turks who moved from Turkistan in Central Asia." I was just wondering what is the relationship between Saljuk Turks and Uyghurs. Does the place called Turkistan in this documentary refer to what is now Xinjiang/East Turkistan?

I remember one of my Turkish friends said the Uyghurs are the ancestries of Turkish in Turkey. I am curious about if there is a direct link between the Uyghurs and this long-lasted Empire.

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Origin of Seldjoukides


Seldjoukides reigned on the kingdom of Oğuz from 990. They carried the title of ' Yabgu' and their territory measured approximately a million km2 This family which, before, had had Beylik of the Kınık tribe, provided the hereditary head of this State, head who carried the title of "subaşı". The subaşı Dukak Bey, killed, towards 903, had been replaced by Selçuk (Seldjouk) Bey, éponyme head of the dynasty. According to the legend, Selçuk Bey would have died about the year thousand, at the 115 years age. In 915 it had embraced Islam with all the Kınık clan.

In 999, the State Samanide of Iranian origin, which dominated Transoxianie and Khorassan, was dismembered and its territory divided between two empires Turkish, that of Karakhanides and that of Ghaznévides. It is in assailing in these two great States Turkish that Seldjoukides prepared to take the Sultanate.

It is with Ghaznévides that their conflict was particularly rough. They attacked this State weakened by the death of the sultan Mahmoud de Ghazna, occurred in 1030. The same year, the two brothers Çağrı (Tchagri) and Tuğrul (Tougril) Beys, grandsons of Seldjouk, undertake the conquest of Khorasan. In 1037 they seized the town of Merv, establishing their State on solids bases. Then it was the turn of Nichapour to be taken; it is there that Tuğrul Bey was proclaimed "sultan" (emperor), in August 1038.





I need some help with Uyghur/Turkish history here.

A documentary called "Ottoman Empire" says, "the Empire was founded (around 1300 ) by Saljuk Turks who moved from Turkistan in Central Asia." I was just wondering what is the relationship between Saljuk Turks and Uyghurs. Does the place called Turkistan in this documentary refer to what is now Xinjiang/East Turkistan?

I remember one of my Turkish friends said the Uyghurs are the ancestries of Turkish in Turkey. I am curious about if there is a direct link between the Uyghurs and this long-lasted Empire.

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I am curious about if there is a direct link between the Uyghurs and this long-lasted Empire.[/QUOTE]

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I am curious about if there is a direct link between the Uyghurs and this long-lasted Empire.


maybe no direct link between the Ottomans and Uyghurs but they have the same roots,same origins anyhow
as a Turkish Turk it is fascinating to get to know our brothers culture customs and of course the language that we have so many things in common
Turks were nomadıc warrior shepherds and there were nomadic feudal clans
so they never succeed in uniting and forming a huge empire
even so they always fought with each other in central Asia-unlike the Chineese
so eventualy Chinese emperialists occupied their land
Gokturk empire was destroyed by their brothers Sari-Uygurs
same thing happened in Anatolia after the disintegration of Selcuk empire,
fortunately Ottomans emerged from the ashes of Selcuks by subduing the other warrior clans
so Turks were always set back to each other in the past
and now todays tragedy is the modern Turkish republic turning a blind eye to their own brothers wellfare unfortunately
but I think if someone is to make a documentary they must first search and check the history deeply!
dont you think so?

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Xin:means in Chineese new
Jiang:means territory
so Xinjiang reveals itself,,it is an occupied land of ancient noble nation,the Turks
East Turkistan is a part of ancestral inseparable motherland of Turks
you should know this solid fact first!
and then one can talk about making a film about Xinjiang!

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1. Modern Turkey turks and Uyghurs are from same origin
2. Hun, Gok Turk and Uyghur empire included both modern uyghurs and turkey turks
3.Seljuks turk forefathers and Uyghurs are both originated from Qarahiniler empire , it's capital was Kashgar in Eastturkistan.
4. Saljuks disobeyed Qarahaniler and estublished even stronger empire, in the end, qarahaniler become a vassals of Saljuks.
5. in the 13th century, along other turks, uyghurturks also migrated to anatoliya, become ancestors of modern turks
6. Eretna state in anatoliya was estublished by Uyghur turks.
7.in 19th century, Kashgaria's king Yaqubbek asked Ottaman empire's protection, Ottaman Sultan wanted to help , but rising russia and briton made ottaman's too week to help east turkistan( in his memoir, sultan descibed his sorrow)
8. Uyghur (uygur) is one of the most common last names in Turkey
9.Uyghur means culture in modern turkey turkish.....



I need some help with Uyghur/Turkish history here.

A documentary called "Ottoman Empire" says, "the Empire was founded (around 1300 ) by Saljuk Turks who moved from Turkistan in Central Asia." I was just wondering what is the relationship between Saljuk Turks and Uyghurs. Does the place called Turkistan in this documentary refer to what is now Xinjiang/East Turkistan?

I remember one of my Turkish friends said the Uyghurs are the ancestries of Turkish in Turkey. I am curious about if there is a direct link between the Uyghurs and this long-lasted Empire.

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It is UYGAR for culture and not Uyghur.
What you said below is just an imagination.



1. Modern Turkey turks and Uyghurs are from same

9.Uyghur means culture in modern turkey turkish.....

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It is UYGAR for culture and not Uyghur.
What you said below is just an imagination.

modern Turkish republic's founder Mustafa Kemal had founded 'Turk Dil kurumu'
the institution for language,and it did serve a great function which was to
get rid of foreign words and influence (mainly Arabic and Farsi) in Turkish
language.When it came to replace 'Medeniyet' Civilisation,,Mustafa Kemal Ataturk suggested to use Uygar (derived from Uyghur Nation) because Uyghurs were
among the most advanced and civilised clans in Turkic world at the time.
Personaly I am very proud and happy to see this word is accepted and used widely today.
Some other foreign words like for instance 'Sherqi' East (probably Arabic) is still used by other
Turkic nations but had been replaced by 'Turk dil kurumu' as 'Dogu' which fits in
Turkish language perfectly as it was derived from sunrise or the birth of sun
Anyway Uyghur Nation once it was sovereign was the most civilised among the Turks
so they dont deserve this enslavement at all and they will regain their 'istiklal or ozgurluk' soon
as Turkish National Anthem say:
'Hakkidir Hakka tapan Milletimin istiklal'
'Freedom is our God venereting Nation's natural right'

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If you follow that "institution" even chinese will be regarded as turkish.


modern Turkish republic's founder Mustafa Kemal had founded 'Turk Dil kurumu'
the institution for language,and it did serve a great function which was to
get rid of foreign words and influence (mainly Arabic and Farsi) in Turkish
language.When it came to replace 'Medeniyet' Civilisation,,Mustafa Kemal Ataturk suggested to use Uygar (derived from Uyghur Nation) because Uyghurs were
among the most advanced and civilised clans in Turkic world at the time.
Personaly I am very proud and happy to see this word is accepted and used widely today.
Some other foreign words like for instance 'Sherqi' East (probably Arabic) is still used by other
Turkic nations but had been replaced by 'Turk dil kurumu' as 'Dogu' which fits in
Turkish language perfectly as it was derived from sunrise or the birth of sun
Anyway Uyghur Nation once it was sovereign was the most civilised among the Turks
so they dont deserve this enslavement at all and they will regain their 'istiklal or ozgurluk' soon
as Turkish National Anthem say:
'Hakkidir Hakka tapan Milletimin istiklal'
'Freedom is our God venereting Nation's natural right'

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If you follow that "institution" even chinese will be regarded as turkish.



whoever quoted that is probably chinese or working or chinese. Uighurs are the forfathers of turks, very related, everyone can tell this by just looking at them, but Chinese is diffrent, take a look at one of them and you'll find out.

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whoever quoted that is probably chinese or working or chinese. Uighurs are the forfathers of turks, very related, everyone can tell this by just looking at them, but Chinese is diffrent, take a look at one of them and you'll find out.


if a Turk goes to china and see the Uyghur brothers in a sea of people-in the street,their

eyes lock up immediately and they recognise of each other

and the feeling is can't be explained

I wish everyone experiences this!

it is an indiscribable situation!

"hersey laf'i guzaf,gidin kardesinizi orda gorun ne dedigimi anlarsiniz"

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Are you sure ?
It has been not long ago that you Turkish guys issued your "ATATURK Prize" to Jiag Zemin. What does it mean ?


whoever quoted that is probably chinese or working or chinese. Uighurs are the forfathers of turks, very related, everyone can tell this by just looking at them, but Chinese is diffrent, take a look at one of them and you'll find out.

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Are you sure ?
It has been not long ago that you Turkish guys issued your "ATATURK Prize" to Jiag Zemin. What does it mean ?


whoever quoted that is probably chinese or working or chinese. Uighurs are the forfathers of turks, very related, everyone can tell this by just looking at them, but Chinese is diffrent, take a look at one of them and you'll find out.

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Are you sure ?
It has been not long ago that you Turkish guys issued your "ATATURK Prize" to Jiag Zemin. What does it mean ?

There are spineles bastards among the Turks , there are many

pro-chinese dishonourable traitors.

There are even some legal political organisations-parties ,which is quite unfortunate I admit

But these people are marjinal and overwhelming majority is sensible and they can see through

that what those SOB's are!

so don't worry if you are a friend of all Turks (including Uyghurs)

if not I'm sorry for you,because every day and day by day there will be more

people who will become concious about the sacret East Turkistan cause believe it or not!

and you know,up to now Chinese emperialists have been able to deceive and fool the world public

now that they started to enforce an evilish assimilation project they will be sorry for it

because Uyghur people soon will mobilise a peacefull and totaly new scheme of stigmatizing

and degrading the heartless-draconian enemy

we will wake up,soon you will see!

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"perincek" pichi bile yakin zamanda vatansever maskesi takip bizi

kandirmaya kalkisti,

unutmadik..

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Including Oghuzhan too ?





satilmis hainler bizde cok var!

"perincek" pichi bile yakin zamanda vatansever maskesi takip bizi kandirmaya kalkisti,

unutmadik..

[Oghuz ewladi]

Oghuzhan is the name of brave, wize, never surrendering Uyghur( turk) king.
What he is doing is the insult for for that great name.
Maybe he is doing something good for Uyghur people, but his stand of publicly submission to chinese regime is dispicable.

Although I do not say he is "Hain", but he is an obvious opputunist.

[Oghuz ewladi]

I know Mr.Oghuzhan loves his people and culture. Mr.Oghuzhan did some remarkable contribution for the preservation of Uyghur culture. I personaly praise him for that. (Ofcourse he is much better than some uyghurs who do not do anything for his beligered nation).
But I have to say that he is hurting my (our) feelings by saying "Xinjiang" and acknowledging current status quo.

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But we will never award our enemy with our highly respected awards.


whoever quoted that is probably chinese or working or chinese. Uighurs are the forfathers of turks, very related, everyone can tell this by just looking at them, but Chinese is diffrent, take a look at one of them and you'll find out.

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I need some help with Uyghur/Turkish history here.

A documentary called "Ottoman Empire" says, "the Empire was founded (around 1300 ) by Saljuk Turks who moved from Turkistan in Central Asia." I was just wondering what is the relationship between Saljuk Turks and Uyghurs. Does the place called Turkistan in this documentary refer to what is now Xinjiang/East Turkistan?

I remember one of my Turkish friends said the Uyghurs are the ancestries of Turkish in Turkey. I am curious about if there is a direct link between the Uyghurs and this long-lasted Empire.

The Seljuks are descended from the Karkhans (Kara-Khanids) or modern day Uyghurs, the first Seljuk sultan Tughurl Bey and Chagri served under the Muhmammed Toghan Khan of the Karakhan empire, and went on a conquest to Persia( modern day Iran) and Khwazerm( right above Iran) they then invaded Baghadad and Alp Arslan (was the commanding general of the Karakhan Empire) fought the Romans at the battle of Malazgirt (Manzikert) and defeated them and settled in Anatolia( modern day Turkey) in the mid 1000 A.D. , the Seljuks are from the Oghuz (Yaghbu) clan with a mix of the Uyghur tribes. They are originally from modern day Turkistan and the first 2 sultans(kings) of the Seljuk Empire were warriors of the KaraKhanid Empire, thus they are direct descendants of the Uyghurs (Karakhans).

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For starters Thanks for the extraordinary information!