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Unregistered
06-02-12, 12:29
2009-yilidiki 7/5 qirginchiliqidin keyin Turkiyening Uyghurlarga qaratqan siyasitida 180 giradus ozgurux peyda bolup, 2012-yili Turkiyede Hitay Medeniyet Yili elan qilindi.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-270495-turkey-china-ready-to-strengthen-already-close-ties.html

Orkishi
06-02-12, 16:54
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Bu maqalini chaplap qoyghuchigha rexmet...

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---Igisi yoq yetimni hemme bozek qilidu dep yalghuz qalghan Uyghurni Ongurge oxshash xitayperes turkler sitip yigiili turuptu. Ghezeptin Dolqun bolup teship ketmisenglermu, azraq qaynam bolup qaynap qoyushe xalayiq! bir-biringni tillash dise ghaljir itning ozi bolup kitishisen, uridighan yerge urushe zerbini! xuddi towendikidek:

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- Anisini bir nime qilay bu namert dunyaning...

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qaynam , 06 February 2012 , 02:12
I am so disappointed to see a biased article in regards to Uyghurs. Shame on you, Zaman! You let Zhu ying shi openly propagate China's policy in Turkish media. Do you know that China arrests any Uyghur who profess that they are turkic people? I did not believe we were Turkic people until I came to the West and met with Turkish people from Turkey. China brainwashed us that we are NOT turkic. I am sorry our Turkishness is in our Blood and DNA. I profess it now. You list that Kasgarli Mahmud is a great turkish linguist, and you list that empires Uyghurs built in the past was part of Turkish empires, and yet suddenly you forget Uyghur's Turkishness when Chinese opened their "Aladin's bags" to you! Where is your honor, Ms. Ongur? Despite that I have no country to go if calamity befalls on me, I showed my outrages on few occasions to people who claimed their ancestors were slaughtered by Ottoman empire and said sth bad about Turkish people. If you are beaten, I am willing to be shield, Gardasim! When I am cornered by a dragon, to whom I should appeal? To Russians, Greeks or Armenians? if my blood brother like you want to sacrifice me, a small lamb for MONEY, what can I say about this world?

Unregistered
07-02-12, 07:05
2009-yilidiki 7/5 qirginchiliqidin keyin Turkiyening Uyghurlarga qaratqan siyasitida 180 giradus ozgurux peyda bolup, 2012-yili Turkiyede Hitay Medeniyet Yili elan qilindi.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-270495-turkey-china-ready-to-strengthen-already-close-ties.html

Vay bu Turkiyening ozining derdi kop. Kurlerni olturdi hem ezivatidu, Ermenilerni qirdi, Kibrisning yerimini ishghal qilivaldi. Helqarada ozining yuzimu qalmidi. Uyghurlarni turk develishtiki mehsed peqet Uyghurlardin paydilinish. "Canim" dep turup anisini satidu bular pul dise. Turkiyediki Uyghurlarmu ashundaq bolup ketkenler.

Unregistered
07-02-12, 11:36
yikindila man bu tor batke turkiye jumhiriyitining her zaman uygur millitining hak dawasini her zaman hitayge setix arkilik maanpaetke tigixidiganlikini,DUK katarlik watan dawasi kiliwatkan barlik uygurlarning turkiyidin pahes bolixini dap otkantim.birak nurgunligan atalmix siyasetqi bilarmanler meni hakaretlap katkan idi.mana amdi turkiyining hainliki axkarliniptu...DUK ning atalmix rmuawin reisi Seyit.Tom turkmu yikindila turkiye togrilik rfa radiosida turkiyini mahtap sozliganti.hetta turkiyining taxki ixlar minesteri Dawut.oglimu seyit.tomturk bilan rasimge quxux arkilik ham uygurlar arkilik hitayge setilix ham Fransiyining Ermani masilisige bolgan turkiyige karxi turuxtak siyasitige Hitay arkilik takabil turux stratigiyisini uygurlarge hainlik kilixtek siyasitini kollunup bu DUK ning insanliri bilan ziyaret ham rasimge quxux arkilik Hitay doliti ham Fransiye hokumitige signal bersi,atalmix uygur siyasetqilirimiz Seyit.Tom turuk apandimge haweslinip katkan idi.hatte dunyaning lobiqilik herkitining zadi nima ikanligini heq quxanmaydigan bu insanlar uygur lobiqilik herkiti dap ozini ham turkiyini ozning xahsi manpaatini qikix kilip sozlap katkan idi....!!! mana amdi turkiyinining bolupmu turklarning her zaman uygur millitige hainlik kilixtek heli-mekri axkarlandi....
ahirki sozum...hey haain Turkiya nima uqun uygurlarning tagdiri balgilangen''yalta yegini''''postdam yigini''ge katnaxkan turukluk uygur millitining ''yalta''''postdam''yiginlirida balgilangan seri tehi eqilmigan uygurlarning mustakillikige ait mizan kanunlirini bir dolat bolux supiting bilan dunyage jakarlimaysen...!!!!

Unregistered
07-02-12, 19:15
Having seen Ankara becoming increasingly hypocritical on the Uyghur issue these years, I may say:

It is time for Uyghurs to disillusion a little bit of Ankara, or at least rethink their previous attitude to rest so much hope upon Ankara.

1. Uyghurs are entitled to self-determination not because they are Turkic, but because they are a distinct people, presenting will and capacity to try to achieve that. Ankara willy nilly offered some space for the Uyghur cause more because Uyghurs are Turkic and Muslim, thus culturally "kin" to a hyper nationalist nation-state called Turkey; however, this is no longer an era when oppressed people struggle for their rights and self-determination in the name of pan-XXXism; Central Asian Turkic states gained independence not because they are Turkic, not with the help of Ankara, even they were themselves sort of surprised at their "free" independence since they did not struggle as much as Uyghurs are doing now, they became independent simply thanks to the dissolution of USSR; look at these Turkic states now, are they faring well? all becoming authoritarian and nationalistic, rife with political, social and economic problems. I do not envision this kind of self-determination for Uyghurs. Instead, Uyghurs are right in their direction of equiping themselves with notions like human rights, self-determination, democracy, etc. Nationalism can be useful in generaing solidarity, but the Uyghur cause can look to a moral ground that is higher: dignity, freedom and prosperity for each Uyghur living in East Turkestan. Pan-Turkic pan-Islamic kinship can be useful, but it is not necessary condition for Uyghur self-determination; the fate of the Uyghur people is at their own hands.

2. Ankara finds itself pretty much in the same boat with Beijing. Simply look at how they abused Kurds, how they killed Armenians and Assyrians. If Ankara seriously supported Uyghurs, then Beijing may begin support Kurds. Then oppressed groups are again played by big nation-states. Turkey's predecessor is Ottoman Empire, which used to be a regime as abusive and expansionist as the Manchu Qing. Both Ankara and Beijing like to frame themselves as "victims" to Western "imperialism", while unscrupulous justifying their abuse of their "conquered" peoples in the name of sovereignty and "anti-colonialism". Their double standars is evidently shared. How can Uyghurs expect such a regime to genuinely help them? What's more, Ankara is so far from Urumchi, they may put on a show to send a flotilla to Gaza, but I doubt they will send anything to East Turkestan, in the exception of Davutoglu, who pretends to care about Uyghurs, but actually recognized Chinese suzerainety over East Turkestan by officially "visiting" it.

3. It may be Kurds rather than Ankara that Uyghurs can build an international coalition with. I see so many stateless minorities continuously played up by powerful nation-states like China and Turkey, and turned into enemies of one another. Stateless minorities will do better if they genuinely unite with one another, which is why it is not Uyghurs' duty to defend their so-called "kins" for what these "kins" have done to Armenians and Kurds. I know that to operate is a different matter, but naivete about ethnic kinship or nationalism sometimes can be morally self-defeating, and blind oppressed people on what they really want. You cannot argue for a free East Turkestan while rejecting a free Kurdistan, right? Nevertheless, I'm not saying Uyghurs should give up their friendship with Anatolian Turks, instead, they need to strengthen that by mobilizing more Turks to afford genuine concern to the Uyghur issue, but with Ankara,with this mercantilist AKP government, it may be better for Uyghurs to disillusion and caution a bit.

4. Remember, the destiny of Uyghurs as a people does not hinge upon whether Ankara supports them or not, but upon Uyghurs themselves, their own will, courage, wisdom and determination!

Unregistered
07-02-12, 22:30
Bu turkiye hokumitining Rabiye hanimni dolitige kirguzelmeywatqanliqidin uning meqsidini uqmudinglarmu, hey eqilliq Uyghurlirim!
Hayajanlanmay, soghuq qanliq bilen tehlil qilishni oguneyli!

turkning meqsidi uyghurni qurban qilip ozini yoghantish!

Unregistered
08-02-12, 07:32
Biz ozimizni -ozimizni turklerning dadisi,bowisi dep xosh qilip yuridikenmiz lekin diqqet qildinglarmu turkiyede otkuzilidighan noruz bayramlirida biz uyghurlar bashqa turkic milletliridek resmi halda teklip qilinduqmu? Eger teklip qilinghan halette Noruz heqqidiki filimlarda bizge qisqighine bolsimu yer berildimu?Yaxshiraq oylinayli doslar! DUQ teshwiqat bolumining ozini
korsitidighan waxti kelgendek qilidu,wetendashlargha dawaning nigizi aldi bilen dini erkinlik uchun mujadilimu yaki buyuk turkistan mujadilisimu we yaki uyghur bilen uning ana tupraq mujadilisimu? digen mesililerni yaxshiraq chushendurup tursa bolghidek!

can116
08-02-12, 11:43
Aldi bilen hemminglargha salam
TODAY'S ZAMAN 'da yazghan o maqaleni menmu oqughan idim . bu maqalige analiz qélishtin burun ZAMAN gézitining kimge ait ikenlikini ,kimning chushenchilirige temsil qilidigahnliqini bilish kérek ve shundaq qilgandila toghra netijige érishkili bolidu.
Zaman géziti kimge ait? limlerining tesiri astida ?
ZAMAN géziti Türkiyediki iqtidar partiyesining teshwiqat orgini ve Feytullah Gülen hocanın tesiri astidiki bir basma orgini yeni demekchi bolghnim Adalet Qalqénma Partiyesining destekchiliriden biri.
Zaman géziti Uyhgur mesili ve Sherqi Türkistan mesilisini qandaq yazidu ? yeni qaysi atalghularni ishlitidu?
Zaman gézitining xeber obzorlirini oqusaq hichbir zaman Sherqi Türkistan ismini qullanmighanliqini körimiz ,daim shinjan uyghur özerk bölgesi dep ataydu. bazi xeberlerde hetta shinjan bölgesi dep atighanliqini körimiz,bir yayınjılıq orgining qandaq isim atalghu fiil sözlükleri kullandighi o organni idare qillgahnlarning İDEOLOJISINI ifade qilidu .Mesilen xittay metbuatliri Uyghurlarnining namayishini terorist dep atighanliqigha oxshash.
Zaman géziti daim Xittay bilen munasiwetilik xeber yazghan bir gézit ve davamliq xittay iqtisadi bilen musaniwetliq xeberleri körimiz.
İstanbul ve Ankaradaki xittay elchixanlari bilen munasiwiti?
Zaman , Sabah ,Star qatrlıq AKPge yéqin munasiwetilik yeni Türkçe yandaş ve candaş medya digenler xittay elchixanisi bilen munasiwiti yéqin. HaberTürk kanal Türk TV'lerni untup qlmasalıq kérek.
sbah star zman gézitlerini oqusunguz xittayni medihligen maqalilerni köreleymiz.
XOSH türkiyening hazirqi veziyitige kelsek:
Türkiyede hazir siyasi tüzülme urushu boliwatqanliqini köreleymiz
REJİM SAVAŞI
yéqinda TVlerde iqtidar partiye ve öktichi partiye arasında tartıshmalr bar. Dindar nesil tartıshmalırı....
iqtidar partiyesi dinge qarap muamile qilidighan bir partiye ,ama türkiye bie ulus devleti yani Milli devlet.... tartıshmalr bu etrapta boliwatidu....Uygur lobisi türkiyede qandaq strateji uyghunlash kérek?
AKP'nıng yanında dinni kimlikimizı ,MHP bilen körüshkende milli kimlikimizni CHP bilen körüshkende ATATÜRKÜ hatta BDP bilen körüshkende oxshash veziyette bolghanliqimizni déyishimiz kérek....
herqandaq waqit köngülcheklik qilmasliqimiz kérek ....ez qatmaydu
siyaset qangha millentke ejdatlargha dilgha qarap qilidighan ish emes iken TÜRKLERDİN bunu ögendim
Xittay elchixanisi buyil ajayip aktip hereket qlidu....22 fevralda XI Türkiyege kélidu uyghur ziyalilar DUQ turkiye vekil uygur teshkilatlar biraz aktip bolush kérek bolsa dokilat teyyarlap herqaysi partiye heyyetige jumhur bashkanlıqqa ewetısh kérek.
Türkiyeni türkler bashqurmaywatıdu bunu unutma.
2011yil 12 ayning 12 kunu TOPKAPI SARIYI MECİDİYEKÖŞK'de tÜRKİYE çin YİLİ dep ilan qildi......mediniyet ministiri söz qildi.....
bizdin marojna sétiwilinglar ,xittay sayahetchiliri téximı jiq kelsun dep chaqiriq qildi....xittay mediniyitige ajayıp mediyeler oqudu....
Türkiye xittay bilen munasiwet ornatmaqchi likin UYghur davasini qurban qilish yaki koz qilish arqiliq ....

Axirida démekchi bolghinim AKPning siyasi yighinlirigha KÖKBAYRAQNİ kötürüp bamang .....sherqi türkistaning bayriqi herqandaq bir siyasi partiyege OYUNCHAQ bolmisun.....