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Turdi Ghoja
25-08-11, 21:10
On August 20, 2011, a mysterious food-poisoning incident in a Uyghur village in Guma County, East Turkistan, killed at least 11 Uyghur villagers and sent another 150 to hospital. According to a report by the official Xinhua news agency on Tuesday, residents of the village felt sick after consuming vinegar served at a large communal meal during Ramadan. Chinese authorities concluded that the anti-freeze was to blame for the poisoning because the vinegar was stored in two plastic barrels previously used for the storage of antifreeze.

But, this conclusion does not hold water. I do chemical research for living. I know that anti-freeze, which is mainly ethylene glycol, is not that much toxic. Residual amount could not possibly cause that much damage. Besides, the symptoms described by the residents contacted by Radio Free Asia were not consistent with anti-freeze poisoning. For any person with minimum knowledge of anti-freeze, it would have been quite easy to rule it out. How could the Chinese specialists make such a blunder? Or did they?

Based on the symptoms, common poisons such as rat poison, cyanide, arsine and nitrite can be ruled out. If victims started to die within hours after consuming the tainted vinegar, common food-poisoning bacteria such as salmonella could not be the culprits either. What is it then? That is big question and a scary one many Uyghurs.

It happened days after an incident in which disgruntled clashed with police in the nearby Hotan City. It would be out of character if that t incident triggered the poisoning incident as a revenge attack by a Chinese individual or individuals. In a place where freedom of speech and checks and balances do not exist, it is easy for different communities to develop mistrust, misunderstanding and outright hatred against each other. Indeed, Chinese Government policies over the decades in East Turkistan caused two communities, the indigenous Uyghurs and the Chinese settlers, to harbor deep hatred against each other. It manifested itself during the 2009 July 5 incident in Urumchi and numerous other smaller incidents. This poisoning incident could be another manifestation. However, if an individual were responsible, you would assume he/she would use one of the common poisons mentioned above. But, it does not seem to be common poison known and available for general public. Could there be more sinister reason behind?

I consider myself a levelheaded man. I am into conspiracy theories. But, knowing what I know about the Chinese authorities, I am willing to let my imagination venture out of my comfort zone a little bit in this case to allow for the possibility of a very scary scenario—the government was behind the incident. It is not too far-fetch to suspect that the Chinese scientists with or without government permission could have tested a chemical or biological weapon on the Uyghur population. There are two reasons for this. First, they hate Uyghurs, they could not wait for the Uyghurs to disappear from the surface of earth for forever, leaving their land for them. Second, Uyghur people from that particular region have the most Caucasian features. If they are developing a weapon selectively attacks Caucasians while having minimum effect on Asians, they could not fight the temptation to test it on the helpless Uyghurs. Why else the government sent specialists would tell obvious lies?

Turdi Ghoja
25-08-11, 21:31
Sorry, my fingers must have been sleeping. Made numerous typos. Please read this corrected version.

Turdi
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On August 20, 2011, a mysterious food-poisoning incident in a Uyghur village in Guma County, East Turkistan, killed at least 11 Uyghur villagers and sent another 150 to hospital. According to a report by the official Xinhua news agency on Tuesday, residents of the village felt sick after consuming vinegar served at a large communal meal during Ramadan. Chinese authorities concluded that anti-freeze was to blame for the poisoning because the vinegar was stored in two plastic barrels previously used for the storage of antifreeze.

But, this conclusion does not hold water. I do chemical research for living. I know that anti-freeze, which is mainly ethylene glycol, is not that toxic. Residual amount could not possibly cause that much damage. Besides, the symptoms described by the residents contacted by Radio Free Asia were not consistent with anti-freeze poisoning. For any person with minimum knowledge of anti-freeze, it would have been quite easy to rule it out. How could the Chinese specialists make such a blunder? Or did they?

Based on the symptoms, common poisons such as rat poison, cyanide, arsine and nitrite can be ruled out. If victims started to die within hours after consuming the tainted vinegar, common food-poisoning bacteria such as salmonella could not be the culprits either. What is it then? That is a big question and a scary one for many Uyghurs.

It happened days after an incident in which disgruntled Uyghurs clashed with police in nearby Hotan City. It would not be out of character if that t incident triggered the poisoning incident as a revenge attack by a Chinese individual or individuals. In a place where freedom of speech and checks and balances do not exist, it is easy for different communities to develop mistrust, misunderstanding and outright hatred against each other. Indeed, Chinese Government policies over the decades in East Turkistan caused two communities, the indigenous Uyghurs and the Chinese settlers, to harbor deep hatred against each other. It manifested itself during the 2009 July 5 incident in Urumchi and numerous other smaller incidents. This poisoning incident could be another manifestation. However, if an individual were responsible, you would assume he/she would use one of the common poisons mentioned above. But, it does not seem to be a common poison known and available for general public. Could there be more sinister reason behind then?

I consider myself a levelheaded man. I am into conspiracy theories. But, knowing what I know about the Chinese, in this case I am willing to let my imagination venture out of my comfort zone a little bit to allow for the possibility of a very scary scenario—the government involvement in the incident. It is not too far-fetch to suspect that the Chinese scientists with or without government permission could have tested a chemical or biological weapon on the Uyghur population. There are two reasons for this. First, they hate Uyghurs, they could not wait for the Uyghurs to disappear from the surface of earth for forever, leaving their land for them. Second, Uyghur people from that particular region have the most Caucasian features. If they are developing a weapon selectively attacks Caucasians while having minimum effect on Asians, they could not fight the temptation to test it on the helpless Uyghurs. Why else the government sent specialists would tell obvious lies?
Back in college in Beijing in the 80’s, I read an article on an authoritative Chinese paper that South African Scientists were developing a racially selective bio-weapon with the help of Israeli scientists. I do not know if such programs really exist, but it is scientifically plausible.

Unregistered
26-08-11, 05:46
The Chinese government hiding the truth. It is very likely that the poisonning has done by Han Chinese. Much more innocent Uyghurs are killed by Han Chinese in the last decade.

Turdi Ghoja
26-08-11, 07:35
I meant to say "I am NOT into conspiracy theories".
Turdi


Sorry, my fingers must have been sleeping. Made numerous typos. Please read this corrected version.

Turdi
xxxxxxxxxxxx

On August 20, 2011, a mysterious food-poisoning incident in a Uyghur village in Guma County, East Turkistan, killed at least 11 Uyghur villagers and sent another 150 to hospital. According to a report by the official Xinhua news agency on Tuesday, residents of the village felt sick after consuming vinegar served at a large communal meal during Ramadan. Chinese authorities concluded that anti-freeze was to blame for the poisoning because the vinegar was stored in two plastic barrels previously used for the storage of antifreeze.

But, this conclusion does not hold water. I do chemical research for living. I know that anti-freeze, which is mainly ethylene glycol, is not that toxic. Residual amount could not possibly cause that much damage. Besides, the symptoms described by the residents contacted by Radio Free Asia were not consistent with anti-freeze poisoning. For any person with minimum knowledge of anti-freeze, it would have been quite easy to rule it out. How could the Chinese specialists make such a blunder? Or did they?

Based on the symptoms, common poisons such as rat poison, cyanide, arsine and nitrite can be ruled out. If victims started to die within hours after consuming the tainted vinegar, common food-poisoning bacteria such as salmonella could not be the culprits either. What is it then? That is a big question and a scary one for many Uyghurs.

It happened days after an incident in which disgruntled Uyghurs clashed with police in nearby Hotan City. It would not be out of character if that t incident triggered the poisoning incident as a revenge attack by a Chinese individual or individuals. In a place where freedom of speech and checks and balances do not exist, it is easy for different communities to develop mistrust, misunderstanding and outright hatred against each other. Indeed, Chinese Government policies over the decades in East Turkistan caused two communities, the indigenous Uyghurs and the Chinese settlers, to harbor deep hatred against each other. It manifested itself during the 2009 July 5 incident in Urumchi and numerous other smaller incidents. This poisoning incident could be another manifestation. However, if an individual were responsible, you would assume he/she would use one of the common poisons mentioned above. But, it does not seem to be a common poison known and available for general public. Could there be more sinister reason behind then?

I consider myself a levelheaded man. I am into conspiracy theories. But, knowing what I know about the Chinese, in this case I am willing to let my imagination venture out of my comfort zone a little bit to allow for the possibility of a very scary scenario—the government involvement in the incident. It is not too far-fetch to suspect that the Chinese scientists with or without government permission could have tested a chemical or biological weapon on the Uyghur population. There are two reasons for this. First, they hate Uyghurs, they could not wait for the Uyghurs to disappear from the surface of earth for forever, leaving their land for them. Second, Uyghur people from that particular region have the most Caucasian features. If they are developing a weapon selectively attacks Caucasians while having minimum effect on Asians, they could not fight the temptation to test it on the helpless Uyghurs. Why else the government sent specialists would tell obvious lies?
Back in college in Beijing in the 80’s, I read an article on an authoritative Chinese paper that South African Scientists were developing a racially selective bio-weapon with the help of Israeli scientists. I do not know if such programs really exist, but it is scientifically plausible.

Unregistered
27-08-11, 09:10
kiqikmizde, sovet xiu zheng zhu yi qilarigha harshi turumiz dep yerlikte aililege kural tarkitip bergen. yurtumizda bir neqqe gong she derjilik hitay kadirlari bar idi. Tuyuksiz yurtumizda nurghun adem kisel bolup mektep siniplirinimu kiselhana kilip yitip ketti. Olup ketkenlermu az emes bolsa kirek. Helkimiz ekin su iqip yashaydighan adet sewyeside idi, likin suyumiz taghdin qushudighan pakiz su idi. Shundakla, helkimiz ak kongul hudadin keldi dep bilidu emesmu! Bu ishlar kayta sadir bolmisun, hudagha amanet!