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30-01-11, 05:18
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Allah razi bolsun kop rehmet , Qurankirim mojizaliri 1- qisim qeyerdin korushka bolidu?

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31-01-11, 14:21
Men, bugun kutuphana jazida, "amerkidiki muslim turkey" ning kemsitilishlerge qidashliri, digen bir kitapka kuzum qushup kaldi. deslep turk millitini deydighan ohshaydu dep, shu koz aldimgha keliptu. kiyin waraklap kursem amerkidi din tarkatkuqilarning qirkawlarda nurghun yillar mabeynide musulmanlar ustidiki soz kuz karashliri iken. ularning karishiqe peyghembirmiz bir kip kizil sarang bolup ulargha egeshken musumalarmu uqigha qikkan sarang diyilidiken, bu hil karashlargha sewep peyghembirmizning nikah mesilsi asaslik iken. hetta musulmalar ehlaksiz hekler bolup ailede balilirinimu intayin naqar ehlakta qong kilidu diyilidiken. aptur mu mesillerge ilmi qushnqe bermekqi ohshaydu, yeni undak emes dep pakitlar arkilik, musulmandin yat heklerning bundak musumanlarni kemsitishi toghra emes dimekqi ohshaydu.
Buni kurup, uyghurlardin hiristian dingha kirgenlergimu, bir mertiwe rehmet eytip keldi. qunki ular anda sanda bizning islam dinimizni hakaret kiliwatatti, ular uni qirkawlarda missionlardin ugengen bolushi kirek. ular bolmighan bolsa, ularning bizni zadi kandak kurudighanlikini ukmay kalar iduk, yeni kitap okup bakmayttuk elwette. emdi u hiristian doslurimizdin shuni otunumizki, ular ashundak teshwikatka duq kelgende, bizning uyghur musulmanlirimiz undak emes, ular ehlak adimilkte katta hekler dep bizning millitimizning yuzi uqun soz kilip koysun, bizning obrazimizni yurutsun. ular uyghur helkning yashi edeplik helk ikenligining shahidi, eng az digende ularning bikip qong kilghan ata aniliri ena ashu guzel ehleklik musulman uyurlarning jumlisidindur.
amin, hudayimgha amanet!

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31-01-11, 16:32
Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to our Prophet, and that no Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. And even until today in 3rd world countries (Muslims and non-Muslims), little girls as young as 9 or 10 do get married. Anyway, the reason no one objected was to the Prophet's marriage was:

People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia. They used to live between 40 to 60 years maximum. So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.


Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries. See the following examples: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7], etc...


It is important to know that girls during the Biblical and Islamic days used to be married off at young ages when they either had their first periods, or their breasts start showing off. In other words, when they turn into "women", then they get married off. It was quite different for men on the other hand, because physical power and the ability of living an independent life had always been and will always be a mandatory requirement for men to have in life. So men waited much longer than women in terms of getting married. The guy had to develop both his body and mind before he was ready for marriage.

That is why you see girls as young as 9 or 10 were married to men as old as 30 or even older. The culture back then and in many third world countries today (NON-MUSLIM ONES TOO) is quite different than what you live in today.



Prophet Muhammad's marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions!



So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.








1-mojize Muhamad peyghemberning 54 ke kirgende 9 yashlik Ayshe digen kiz bilen toy kilishighu deymen.

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31-01-11, 17:07
Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to our Prophet, and that no Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. And even until today in 3rd world countries (Muslims and non-Muslims), little girls as young as 9 or 10 do get married. Anyway, the reason no one objected was to the Prophet's marriage was:

People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia. They used to live between 40 to 60 years maximum. So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.


Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries. See the following examples: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7], etc...


It is important to know that girls during the Biblical and Islamic days used to be married off at young ages when they either had their first periods, or their breasts start showing off. In other words, when they turn into "women", then they get married off. It was quite different for men on the other hand, because physical power and the ability of living an independent life had always been and will always be a mandatory requirement for men to have in life. So men waited much longer than women in terms of getting married. The guy had to develop both his body and mind before he was ready for marriage.

That is why you see girls as young as 9 or 10 were married to men as old as 30 or even older. The culture back then and in many third world countries today (NON-MUSLIM ONES TOO) is quite different than what you live in today.



Prophet Muhammad's marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions!



So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.

bu jawapni chaplighan qerindashtin Allah razi bolsun. eslide 9 yashliq kichik qizgha öylendi- yey, bu qandaq peyghmber-dep, waysap ketishning hajiti yoq idi. hazir gherbi yawrupa döletliride qiz oghullarning erkinlikige hechkim dexle qilalmaydu. ularning nemini xalisa shuni qilish erkinliki döletning belgilik qanunlirida qoghdalghan. shunga qiz oghullar xalighanche jinsi munasiwet ötküzüsh erkinlikige ige.

Germaniyede 2008 - yili 13 yashliq qizlar üstide tekshürüsh elip barghan bolup, 60% qizlar jinsi munasiwet ötküzgen, 12 yashliq qizlar üstidiki tekshürüshte 38% jinsi munasiwet ötküzgenliki melum bolghan. uningdin töwen yashtikilerni tekshürüshke ruxset bolmighanliqtin, jinsi munasiwetning bashlinish yeshining eng kichik qanche yash ikenliki eniqsiz qalghan.

qizlarning 12 yashta hamile bolush nisbiti yoquri bolghachqa, mekteplerde sotsialpedagok xizmetchiliri qizlargha daim pltir saxlashni tewsiye qilidiken. jismani jehettin saghlam, kilo eghirliqi gheyri normal 45 kilodin halqighan, boy igizliki 160 tin igiz 12 yash etrapidiki qizlar hamile bolup bala tughushqa qabilyetlik iken. lekin qanunda 16 yashtin bashlap hamile bolush yolluq bolghachqa uningdin kichik yashtiki qizlar jinsi munasiwette piltir qollunushqa mejbur iken.

kishiler nemishke: ayshe 9 yashta, Muhammed 54 yashta nikalandi, kichik qizgha nikalandi-dep, 1500 yil burunqi 9 yashliq qiz bilen hazirqi 9 yashliq qizni selishturupla peyghemberge til uzutishqa urunidu? yoqurdiki Enggilizche chüshenchige qayil bolmighan adem, munazire telep qilmighan, eksiche pitne eghwani meqset qilghan kishidur.

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31-01-11, 23:08
Sizning tilgha laghan Germaniyediki u kichik qiz balilar chong ademler bilen emes uzi bilen bir dimetlik kichik oghul ballar bilen munasiwet otkuzgen. 12 yashliq bala bilen yene bir 12 yashliq balining arisidiki munasiwet bilen 12 yashliq bala bilen 54 yashliq bir ademning arisida bolidighan munasiwet tuptin ohshimaydu. Chunki birinjidin yeshigha toshmighan oghul ballar jismani jehettin chong ademlerdin perqliq, ikkinjidin yeshigha tohsmighan qizlar bilen yeshigha tohsmighan oghullar ottursidiki munasiwet her ikki terep hissiyat jehettin qobul qilip, halap qilghan munasiwet. Siz tilgha alghan doklatta ularning otkuzgen jinsi munasiwitining qaysi turdiki munasiwet ikenligini deptimu? Menmu Amerikidiki qizlar toghruluq bir ohshash haraktirlik doklat oqughan. Kop sandiki kichik qizlarning jinsi munasiwet digini siz-bizning oylighinidek normal jinsi munasiwet emesken, yeni ular jinsi ezasini ishletmeydiken. 9 yashliq bala meyli hazir yaki qedimde bolsun balaghetke yitishining ihtimallighi nayiti az. balaghetke yetsun yetmisun u beribir 9 yashliq bala. Eger sizning 9 yashliq qizingiz bolsidi azraq tesewwuringizni ishlitip baqsingiz bu ishning qanchiliq yaman bir ish ikenligini his qilalighan bolattingiz.

Toghra, burunqi zamanlarda kichik qizlar bilen toy qilidighan adetler bolghan, likin u bu ishning toghralighining ispati bolalmaydu. Burunlarda hetta hazirqi zamandimu qizlarni oghullardin pes koridighan adet tupeyli namrat ata-anilar yeshigha tolmighan qizballarni jinsi oyunchuq ornida satidighan, puli barlar alidighan adetler bar. Likin insanlar qiz ballarning undaq kichik yashta jinsi munasiwet qilsa, bolupmu yeshigha tolghan chong ademler bilen munasiwet qilsa jismani jehettinla eghir zehmige uchrap hetta olup kitish hewpi bolupla qalmastin rohi jehettinmu eghiz dehlige uchraydighanlighini alla-burun tonup yetken. Shunga kop sandiki musulmanlarni oz ichi alghan dunya jamayiti kichik qizlargha jinsi jehettin cheqilishni qattilliqtin on hesse eghiz jinayet ornida koridu. Ademning chushinelmeydighini peyghember bolghan adem buni bulmigini, Arapnlerning shu zamandiki nachar adetliri bolghanlighi uchunla uni qobul qilghini. Peyghember Huda bilen alaqe qilip turghan iken, Huda Ayshe toghrisida peyghemberge sozligen iken, chushenmeydighan yeri Peyghember bulmigen teqdirdimu Hudayim bulishi we uning aldini tosishi kirektighu? Hudayim yoqmu yaki Peyghemberning Huda bilen sozleshtim digini yalghan gepmu? Jawabini uzingiz talliweling. Eng yahshisi bu yerde din toghruluq tola sozleshmeyli. Weten sirtigha yolini tepip chiqalighan hemme Uyghur uzining iktiyajigha chushluq din sawadigha we eqidige ige, bashqilarning ugitishige hajiti bolmisa kirek. Eger siz din tarqatsingiz bashqilarmu mushundaq dini koz qarashlirini otturgha qoyghusi kilidu. Ahirda erkin soz ishekke yuk bolidu.


bu jawapni chaplighan qerindashtin Allah razi bolsun. eslide 9 yashliq kichik qizgha öylendi- yey, bu qandaq peyghmber-dep, waysap ketishning hajiti yoq idi. hazir gherbi yawrupa döletliride qiz oghullarning erkinlikige hechkim dexle qilalmaydu. ularning nemini xalisa shuni qilish erkinliki döletning belgilik qanunlirida qoghdalghan. shunga qiz oghullar xalighanche jinsi munasiwet ötküzüsh erkinlikige ige.

Germaniyede 2008 - yili 13 yashliq qizlar üstide tekshürüsh elip barghan bolup, 60% qizlar jinsi munasiwet ötküzgen, 12 yashliq qizlar üstidiki tekshürüshte 38% jinsi munasiwet ötküzgenliki melum bolghan. uningdin töwen yashtikilerni tekshürüshke ruxset bolmighanliqtin, jinsi munasiwetning bashlinish yeshining eng kichik qanche yash ikenliki eniqsiz qalghan.

qizlarning 12 yashta hamile bolush nisbiti yoquri bolghachqa, mekteplerde sotsialpedagok xizmetchiliri qizlargha daim pltir saxlashni tewsiye qilidiken. jismani jehettin saghlam, kilo eghirliqi gheyri normal 45 kilodin halqighan, boy igizliki 160 tin igiz 12 yash etrapidiki qizlar hamile bolup bala tughushqa qabilyetlik iken. lekin qanunda 16 yashtin bashlap hamile bolush yolluq bolghachqa uningdin kichik yashtiki qizlar jinsi munasiwette piltir qollunushqa mejbur iken.

kishiler nemishke: ayshe 9 yashta, Muhammed 54 yashta nikalandi, kichik qizgha nikalandi-dep, 1500 yil burunqi 9 yashliq qiz bilen hazirqi 9 yashliq qizni selishturupla peyghemberge til uzutishqa urunidu? yoqurdiki Enggilizche chüshenchige qayil bolmighan adem, munazire telep qilmighan, eksiche pitne eghwani meqset qilghan kishidur.

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01-02-11, 04:41
Sizning tilgha laghan Germaniyediki u kichik qiz balilar chong ademler bilen emes uzi bilen bir dimetlik kichik oghul ballar bilen munasiwet otkuzgen. 12 yashliq bala bilen yene bir 12 yashliq balining arisidiki munasiwet bilen 12 yashliq bala bilen 54 yashliq bir ademning arisida bolidighan munasiwet tuptin ohshimaydu. Chunki birinjidin yeshigha toshmighan oghul ballar jismani jehettin chong ademlerdin perqliq, ikkinjidin yeshigha tohsmighan qizlar bilen yeshigha tohsmighan oghullar ottursidiki munasiwet her ikki terep hissiyat jehettin qobul qilip, halap qilghan munasiwet. Siz tilgha alghan doklatta ularning otkuzgen jinsi munasiwitining qaysi turdiki munasiwet ikenligini deptimu? Menmu Amerikidiki qizlar toghruluq bir ohshash haraktirlik doklat oqughan. Kop sandiki kichik qizlarning jinsi munasiwet digini siz-bizning oylighinidek normal jinsi munasiwet emesken, yeni ular jinsi ezasini ishletmeydiken. 9 yashliq bala meyli hazir yaki qedimde bolsun balaghetke yitishining ihtimallighi nayiti az. balaghetke yetsun yetmisun u beribir 9 yashliq bala. Eger sizning 9 yashliq qizingiz bolsidi azraq tesewwuringizni ishlitip baqsingiz bu ishning qanchiliq yaman bir ish ikenligini his qilalighan bolattingiz.

Toghra, burunqi zamanlarda kichik qizlar bilen toy qilidighan adetler bolghan, likin u bu ishning toghralighining ispati bolalmaydu. Burunlarda hetta hazirqi zamandimu qizlarni oghullardin pes koridighan adet tupeyli namrat ata-anilar yeshigha tolmighan qizballarni jinsi oyunchuq ornida satidighan, puli barlar alidighan adetler bar. Likin insanlar qiz ballarning undaq kichik yashta jinsi munasiwet qilsa, bolupmu yeshigha tolghan chong ademler bilen munasiwet qilsa jismani jehettinla eghir zehmige uchrap hetta olup kitish hewpi bolupla qalmastin rohi jehettinmu eghiz dehlige uchraydighanlighini alla-burun tonup yetken. Shunga kop sandiki musulmanlarni oz ichi alghan dunya jamayiti kichik qizlargha jinsi jehettin cheqilishni qattilliqtin on hesse eghiz jinayet ornida koridu. Ademning chushinelmeydighini peyghember bolghan adem buni bulmigini, Arapnlerning shu zamandiki nachar adetliri bolghanlighi uchunla uni qobul qilghini. Peyghember Huda bilen alaqe qilip turghan iken, Huda Ayshe toghrisida peyghemberge sozligen iken, chushenmeydighan yeri Peyghember bulmigen teqdirdimu Hudayim bulishi we uning aldini tosishi kirektighu? Hudayim yoqmu yaki Peyghemberning Huda bilen sozleshtim digini yalghan gepmu? Jawabini uzingiz talliweling. Eng yahshisi bu yerde din toghruluq tola sozleshmeyli. Weten sirtigha yolini tepip chiqalighan hemme Uyghur uzining iktiyajigha chushluq din sawadigha we eqidige ige, bashqilarning ugitishige hajiti bolmisa kirek. Eger siz din tarqatsingiz bashqilarmu mushundaq dini koz qarashlirini otturgha qoyghusi kilidu. Ahirda erkin soz ishekke yuk bolidu.

Siz Katolik oxshimamsiz? " siz din tarqatsingiz, bashqilarningmu din tarqatqusi kelidiken" dep qapsiz. yeshi chong Muhammed, yeshi kichik aysheni nikahigha alghan bolsa, sizning din tarqitishingizgha taqiship qaldimu? sizning diningizge peqet sizdek kishiler kirishi mumkin. özini ölümdin qutulduralmighan " Hudayingiz"ge eqli gejgisige ötüp qalghan kishiler kirmise, normal adem kirishni oylapmu baqmaydu. siz aysheni kichik qizni Muhammde nikayigha aldi, shunga bu din toghra emes, demikchi. shu arqiliq Musulmanlarni öz dinidin chekindürüp, katolik yoligha bashlimaqchi. bir ademni katolik qilip bersingiz xojayinliringiz qanche pul beridu? demekchi bolghinim siler pul üchün ishleyliser. dininglargha kiridighan ademgimu pul berip aldaysiler. bolmisa ölgen " Huda"yinglargha choqunidighan kim bar? biz eysaning peyghember ikenlikige iman keltürimiz. lekin uni silerdek "Huda" dep qarimaymiz. silerning hudayinglar xotun alidiken. bala tapidiken. ölüp qalidiken. biz itiqad qilidighan heqiqi Allah xotun almaydu, bala tapmaydu, tengdeshi yoq, ölmeydu, megngü hayat! silerning hudayinglar birdem adem bolup yerge chüshüp özi din tarqitip yüridiken, bir dem nikasiz bala tepip majra terip yüridiken, berdem kirske miqlinip öltürülidiken, birdemde yene huda bolup asmangha chiqip ketidiken. mushundaq saranglardek gepke kim ishinidu?

yehudilar eysani nikasiz tughuldi-dep haqaretleydu, meryemni buzuq ayal-dep haqaretleydu. siler eysani, meryemni aqlash üchün "Huda" qilip qoydunglar. u "Huda" idi. yerge chüshüp adem bolup, ademlerning japa musheqqetlirini öz beshidin ötküzdi. keyin yene "Huda" bolup asmangha chiqip ketti- deysiler. birdemdila eysa "Hudaning pghli" idi-dep birljirlaysiler. silerde tüzük itiqad yoq. özenglarmu ishenmeysiler yalghan hudaringlargha. pul üchün shundaq qilisiler. pul bermise chirkawni taqap qoyup ketisiler. ibadetmu qilmaysiler. hudayinglarning heykilini karwatning astigha tashlap qoyisiler.

bizning eqidimizdiki eysa Allahning peyghembiridur. uning tughulushi bir möjize bolup huddi adem ata atisiz, anisiz yaritilghandek, eysamu atisiz yaritilghan. Allah yaritishqa qadirdur.eysani yehudilar öltürüshke qest qilghanda Allah Rohi alemge elip ketti. u bir küni Allahning izni bilen yerge qaytidu. u silerdek mushriklarning yüzige qarimaydu. u özini "Huda" dewalghanlarni jazalaydu. chünki u burunqidek rahip, yuwash, derwish süpette emes, belki Islamning jegngiwar, adil sherietini ijra qilidighan, Muhammed eleyhisalamning sherietini ijra qilidighan wezipini üstige alidu.

biz bilmeydighan yoshurun bir ish yoq. ottur asiyada sizdek din tarqitidighan xiristiyan muxlislar chirayliq qizlargha hiroyin chekishni ögütüp, shu arqiliq oghullarni chirkawgha bent qiliwatisiler. qiz oghullar pahishe qilsa Gunayini eysa kötürüp ketken-dep, petiwa berip, zina-zalaletke yol echip berisiler. shu arqiliq yashlarni xiristiyanalshturup, ulargha maash berip, murit köpeytish bedilige özenglar maash elip jan baqisiler xalas. papa benegik 16 hezlekmish. shuningdek katolik poplarning hemmisila degüdek hezlek bolarmish. shunga ular köp xotunluq bolghan Muhammde eleyhisalamgha bek heset qilarmish. shundaqmu? ........berse ayshe berdi. sizning neringiz aghrip ketti? siz yazmingizda Dunya qanuni undaq, munadq, kichik yashliq qizlarni chong yashtiki adem.... dep birnemilerni eytipsiz. dunya qanuni erler bilen erler nikalansa bolidu-dep qarar chiqardi. bu qaysi dingha, qaysi insani exlaqqa oyghun! katolik poplar erler bilen erler toy qilsa nikasini oquydu. ularning dinida, ulargha "Hudayi" bir nerse demigenmidi! silerde heqiqi din barmu! yene nemingizni din dep tarqatqingiz kelip ketti! dinignlarning ishengüdek neri qaldi!

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01-02-11, 08:09
siz mining nimige ishinidighan yaki ishenmeydighanlighimni uqmay turup kop kayip kitipsiz. men hiristiyanmu emes musumanmu emes. men dingha ishenmeydighan birsi. siz yashwatqan gherpte hetta turkiyede kop sandiki ademler hech bir dingha ishenmeydu. hetta churchlargha berip turidighanlarning arisidimu dingha ishinemsen dise yaq deydighanlar nurghun. buni aldirmay chushinip qalisiz kozingizni ochuq tutup yashisingiz.


Siz Katolik oxshimamsiz? " siz din tarqatsingiz, bashqilarningmu din tarqatqusi kelidiken" dep qapsiz. yeshi chong Muhammed, yeshi kichik aysheni nikahigha alghan bolsa, sizning din tarqitishingizgha taqiship qaldimu? sizning diningizge peqet sizdek kishiler kirishi mumkin. özini ölümdin qutulduralmighan " Hudayingiz"ge eqli gejgisige ötüp qalghan kishiler kirmise, normal adem kirishni oylapmu baqmaydu. siz aysheni kichik qizni Muhammde nikayigha aldi, shunga bu din toghra emes, demikchi. shu arqiliq Musulmanlarni öz dinidin chekindürüp, katolik yoligha bashlimaqchi. bir ademni katolik qilip bersingiz xojayinliringiz qanche pul beridu? demekchi bolghinim siler pul üchün ishleyliser. dininglargha kiridighan ademgimu pul berip aldaysiler. bolmisa ölgen " Huda"yinglargha choqunidighan kim bar? biz eysaning peyghember ikenlikige iman keltürimiz. lekin uni silerdek "Huda" dep qarimaymiz. silerning hudayinglar xotun alidiken. bala tapidiken. ölüp qalidiken. biz itiqad qilidighan heqiqi Allah xotun almaydu, bala tapmaydu, tengdeshi yoq, ölmeydu, megngü hayat! silerning hudayinglar birdem adem bolup yerge chüshüp özi din tarqitip yüridiken, bir dem nikasiz bala tepip majra terip yüridiken, berdem kirske miqlinip öltürülidiken, birdemde yene huda bolup asmangha chiqip ketidiken. mushundaq saranglardek gepke kim ishinidu?

yehudilar eysani nikasiz tughuldi-dep haqaretleydu, meryemni buzuq ayal-dep haqaretleydu. siler eysani, meryemni aqlash üchün "Huda" qilip qoydunglar. u "Huda" idi. yerge chüshüp adem bolup, ademlerning japa musheqqetlirini öz beshidin ötküzdi. keyin yene "Huda" bolup asmangha chiqip ketti- deysiler. birdemdila eysa "Hudaning pghli" idi-dep birljirlaysiler. silerde tüzük itiqad yoq. özenglarmu ishenmeysiler yalghan hudaringlargha. pul üchün shundaq qilisiler. pul bermise chirkawni taqap qoyup ketisiler. ibadetmu qilmaysiler. hudayinglarning heykilini karwatning astigha tashlap qoyisiler.

bizning eqidimizdiki eysa Allahning peyghembiridur. uning tughulushi bir möjize bolup huddi adem ata atisiz, anisiz yaritilghandek, eysamu atisiz yaritilghan. Allah yaritishqa qadirdur.eysani yehudilar öltürüshke qest qilghanda Allah Rohi alemge elip ketti. u bir küni Allahning izni bilen yerge qaytidu. u silerdek mushriklarning yüzige qarimaydu. u özini "Huda" dewalghanlarni jazalaydu. chünki u burunqidek rahip, yuwash, derwish süpette emes, belki Islamning jegngiwar, adil sherietini ijra qilidighan, Muhammed eleyhisalamning sherietini ijra qilidighan wezipini üstige alidu.

biz bilmeydighan yoshurun bir ish yoq. ottur asiyada sizdek din tarqitidighan xiristiyan muxlislar chirayliq qizlargha hiroyin chekishni ögütüp, shu arqiliq oghullarni chirkawgha bent qiliwatisiler. qiz oghullar pahishe qilsa Gunayini eysa kötürüp ketken-dep, petiwa berip, zina-zalaletke yol echip berisiler. shu arqiliq yashlarni xiristiyanalshturup, ulargha maash berip, murit köpeytish bedilige özenglar maash elip jan baqisiler xalas. papa benegik 16 hezlekmish. shuningdek katolik poplarning hemmisila degüdek hezlek bolarmish. shunga ular köp xotunluq bolghan Muhammde eleyhisalamgha bek heset qilarmish. shundaqmu? ........berse ayshe berdi. sizning neringiz aghrip ketti? siz yazmingizda Dunya qanuni undaq, munadq, kichik yashliq qizlarni chong yashtiki adem.... dep birnemilerni eytipsiz. dunya qanuni erler bilen erler nikalansa bolidu-dep qarar chiqardi. bu qaysi dingha, qaysi insani exlaqqa oyghun! katolik poplar erler bilen erler toy qilsa nikasini oquydu. ularning dinida, ulargha "Hudayi" bir nerse demigenmidi! silerde heqiqi din barmu! yene nemingizni din dep tarqatqingiz kelip ketti! dinignlarning ishengüdek neri qaldi!

ABU ADAM ABDULLAH
01-02-11, 10:14
siz mining nimige ishinidighan yaki ishenmeydighanlighimni uqmay turup kop kayip kitipsiz. Men hiristiyanmu emes musumanmu emes. Men dingha ishenmeydighan birsi. Siz yashwatqan gherpte hetta turkiyede kop sandiki ademler hech bir dingha ishenmeydu. Hetta churchlargha berip turidighanlarning arisidimu dingha ishinemsen dise yaq deydighanlar nurghun. Buni aldirmay chushinip qalisiz kozingizni ochuq tutup yashisingiz.

sen kapir ikansenghu, wahtida oz rabbingni tonup oz rabbingning yoligha mangghin.

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01-02-11, 10:58
yuqarqi englishche javapmni men chaplighan, emma bir nersini qoshumche qilishni untuptimen. bala yashtiki qizlar bilen yeshi chong erlerning toy qilishini menmu putunley hata dep qaraymen. emma Muhammet bolsa peyghember, u adettiki ademlerge ohshsimaydu uning hayatimu adettiki ademlerdin perqliq bolishi mumkin, aysheni Alla peyghembirimiz bilen nikah qilsa tosimighan bolsa choqum Allahning ozi bilidighan yeri bardu , chunki hemmimizni Allah yaratqan, Alla halisa aysheni peyghembirimizge layiq qilip beralaydu ve shundaq qilip berdi. uning ustige yuqarda diginimdek ottura sherq qurghaq issiq bolghachqa qizlar nahayiti baldur balaghetke yetidu, u chaghlardiki sharait bilen hazirqi sharait ohshimaydu ademlerning qerip olush yeshi u chaghlarda ottura hisap bilen 40- 50 yash bolghan. jemiyetning tuzulmisi ve ayallarning yashash sharaitimu aile terbiyesimu ohshimaydu. Muhammat peyghembirimiz oz waqtida erlerni kop hotunluq bolushqa yol qoyghini, urushta eri olup nurghun ayallar tul qalghachqa u ayallarning turmushta qiynilip qelishining aldini elish uchun shu sharaitqa asasen shundaq qilghan. bu islamdiki belgilep berilgen buni qilsang bolidu buni qilsang bolmaydu digen eniq aq bilen qara rayonning sirtidiki kulreng rayon. kulreng rayonda siz ishlarni sharaitingizge asasen jemiyet tuzulmisige asasen elip barisiz bu rayon bir erkin rayon. chunki islam insanlaning hayatini asan qilishni zulum qilmasliqni terghip qilidu. emma bu digenlik hemme erler davamliq kop hotunluq bolsa bolidu digenlik emes chunki Qur"anda eger hemme jehettin ohshash razi qilalisang 4 hotun rava digen , bu jumlini yeshsingiz eslide hemme jehettin 4 hotunni ohshash razi qilish mumkin emes shunga kop hotunluq bolma digen gep. emma bezi musulmanlarning bala yashtiki qiz bilen oylense toghra bolidu dep qarishi yeni afghanistanda bundaq ehval nahayiti kop, peyghembirimiz bilen ozini tengleshturuvalghini. Islamni burmilap suyistimal qilghinidin bolivatidu. Qur'anning hichbir yeride bala yashtiki qiz bilen oylensenglar bolidu digen gep yok. ayallargha herqandak shekildiki qilinidighan zulum ve azar qattiq cheklinidu Islamda. musulman ellerdiki bezi Ayllarning harlinip qelish mesilillirining hemmisi siyasi ve ijdimai menpeet usitge qurulghan bir tereplimilk fativa we shu jemiyet tuzulmisi ve shu yerde yashighanlarning culturi tupeylidin bolghan ve ularning culturini islam culturi qilivalghanlighinidin bolghan. emililyette orp adet bashqa islam bashqa. orpe adet adetlinip qelish konup qelish bilen davam qilidu. din bolsa u konup qalghanliqtin emes belki ALLAH qa ishinish, ALLahtin qorqush uninggha seghinishtin ibaret qanuniyettin bolidu






Sizning tilgha laghan Germaniyediki u kichik qiz balilar chong ademler bilen emes uzi bilen bir dimetlik kichik oghul ballar bilen munasiwet otkuzgen. 12 yashliq bala bilen yene bir 12 yashliq balining arisidiki munasiwet bilen 12 yashliq bala bilen 54 yashliq bir ademning arisida bolidighan munasiwet tuptin ohshimaydu. Chunki birinjidin yeshigha toshmighan oghul ballar jismani jehettin chong ademlerdin perqliq, ikkinjidin yeshigha tohsmighan qizlar bilen yeshigha tohsmighan oghullar ottursidiki munasiwet her ikki terep hissiyat jehettin qobul qilip, halap qilghan munasiwet. Siz tilgha alghan doklatta ularning otkuzgen jinsi munasiwitining qaysi turdiki munasiwet ikenligini deptimu? Menmu Amerikidiki qizlar toghruluq bir ohshash haraktirlik doklat oqughan. Kop sandiki kichik qizlarning jinsi munasiwet digini siz-bizning oylighinidek normal jinsi munasiwet emesken, yeni ular jinsi ezasini ishletmeydiken. 9 yashliq bala meyli hazir yaki qedimde bolsun balaghetke yitishining ihtimallighi nayiti az. balaghetke yetsun yetmisun u beribir 9 yashliq bala. Eger sizning 9 yashliq qizingiz bolsidi azraq tesewwuringizni ishlitip baqsingiz bu ishning qanchiliq yaman bir ish ikenligini his qilalighan bolattingiz.

Toghra, burunqi zamanlarda kichik qizlar bilen toy qilidighan adetler bolghan, likin u bu ishning toghralighining ispati bolalmaydu. Burunlarda hetta hazirqi zamandimu qizlarni oghullardin pes koridighan adet tupeyli namrat ata-anilar yeshigha tolmighan qizballarni jinsi oyunchuq ornida satidighan, puli barlar alidighan adetler bar. Likin insanlar qiz ballarning undaq kichik yashta jinsi munasiwet qilsa, bolupmu yeshigha tolghan chong ademler bilen munasiwet qilsa jismani jehettinla eghir zehmige uchrap hetta olup kitish hewpi bolupla qalmastin rohi jehettinmu eghiz dehlige uchraydighanlighini alla-burun tonup yetken. Shunga kop sandiki musulmanlarni oz ichi alghan dunya jamayiti kichik qizlargha jinsi jehettin cheqilishni qattilliqtin on hesse eghiz jinayet ornida koridu. Ademning chushinelmeydighini peyghember bolghan adem buni bulmigini, Arapnlerning shu zamandiki nachar adetliri bolghanlighi uchunla uni qobul qilghini. Peyghember Huda bilen alaqe qilip turghan iken, Huda Ayshe toghrisida peyghemberge sozligen iken, chushenmeydighan yeri Peyghember bulmigen teqdirdimu Hudayim bulishi we uning aldini tosishi kirektighu? Hudayim yoqmu yaki Peyghemberning Huda bilen sozleshtim digini yalghan gepmu? Jawabini uzingiz talliweling. Eng yahshisi bu yerde din toghruluq tola sozleshmeyli. Weten sirtigha yolini tepip chiqalighan hemme Uyghur uzining iktiyajigha chushluq din sawadigha we eqidige ige, bashqilarning ugitishige hajiti bolmisa kirek. Eger siz din tarqatsingiz bashqilarmu mushundaq dini koz qarashlirini otturgha qoyghusi kilidu. Ahirda erkin soz ishekke yuk bolidu.

Unregistered
01-02-11, 13:47
siz mining nimige ishinidighan yaki ishenmeydighanlighimni uqmay turup kop kayip kitipsiz. men hiristiyanmu emes musumanmu emes. men dingha ishenmeydighan birsi. siz yashwatqan gherpte hetta turkiyede kop sandiki ademler hech bir dingha ishenmeydu. hetta churchlargha berip turidighanlarning arisidimu dingha ishinemsen dise yaq deydighanlar nurghun. buni aldirmay chushinip qalisiz kozingizni ochuq tutup yashisingiz.

sizni deslep hiristian tergip kiliwatkan ohshaydu tesirde bolduk. emdi karisak hiqkaysi dinda yok ikensiz, undakta nime dep din toghrusida melum bir dinni kollap het sundingiz. sizni ilmi, materialist, yaki realist ademmikin dep oylisak, uninghimu toshmaydighandek turusiz. adette bu tiptiki ademler mesillerni storotype kilsih hata dep karaydu. Emilyettimu, ottura sherktiki musulmandarqilik bilen ottura asiyadiki muslmandarqilikta melum perkler bar, qunki medinyet asasimiz ohshimaydu. hudadin bashka herkandak mewjudadttin kusur tipilidu, buni siyaset yuzsidin kollinishi mukin.

Unregistered
01-02-11, 14:01
siz mining nimige ishinidighan yaki ishenmeydighanlighimni uqmay turup kop kayip kitipsiz. men hiristiyanmu emes musumanmu emes. men dingha ishenmeydighan birsi. siz yashwatqan gherpte hetta turkiyede kop sandiki ademler hech bir dingha ishenmeydu. hetta churchlargha berip turidighanlarning arisidimu dingha ishinemsen dise yaq deydighanlar nurghun. buni aldirmay chushinip qalisiz kozingizni ochuq tutup yashisingiz.

dunyadiki haywanlarningmu etiqadi bar!

Unregistered
01-02-11, 19:41
shunga sizningmu itiqadingiz bar.


dunyadiki haywanlarningmu etiqadi bar!

4th column
01-02-11, 20:22
I do not believe in religion because I believe in God, Allah or whatever you call the creator. In all religions God is recognized as the creator of all humans and the rest of the world, as being most gracious, most compassionate and most loving. I believe these descriptions of God are true. That is reason I do not believe in any religion. Because messages conveyed by any religion runs against this description. According to Islam, the 80% non-Muslim population of the world goes to the Hell; according to Christianity, the 80% non-Christian population of the world goes to the Hell. The same is true for any other religion: people who do not believe in that religion, who are the majority of the world population for any religion, go to the Hell. If God is so compassionate and loving, why would he send 80% of his children to the Hell? If He sends 20%, I may be able to understand, but if it is 80%, I no longer can call him the most compassionate, forgiving and loving being. So, God's universal description is incompatible with the messages that individual religions convey about him. Basically, any religion tries to convince you that you can eat the cake and have it too. I choose God over religion. I was convinced without a doubt long time before I came to US that religion is a social engineering that created by men, not by God or Allah. It was a progressive ideology at its time and served well the society. Part of its message is still relevant, but part of it is outdated. Today's society in democratic countries is more humane than any time in history. This was made possible only after people broke loose from the bondage of religion in the past 300-400 years.

In short, religion is a man-made story served well the humanity for long time. Muhammad's marriage to Ayshe can be read as a proof that God did not spoke to him. It does not make him a pedophile. If he was, he could certainly marry to more children in his capacity, but he did not. He was just following a tribal custom of his time without realizing it was a bad judgment. If he indeed spoke to God, he would've been warned against it, because God would've known that people would hold it against him 1400 years later.

Fear is a very powerful tool. Dictators such as Stalin, Hitler and Mao have used it very effectively; criminals use it to intimidate people; even democratic governments today use it to manipulate people. But, religion uses it most effectively. Fear for religion is like water for a living thing.



yuqarqi englishche javapmni men chaplighan, emma bir nersini qoshumche qilishni untuptimen. bala yashtiki qizlar bilen yeshi chong erlerning toy qilishini menmu putunley hata dep qaraymen. emma Muhammet bolsa peyghember, u adettiki ademlerge ohshsimaydu uning hayatimu adettiki ademlerdin perqliq bolishi mumkin, aysheni Alla peyghembirimiz bilen nikah qilsa tosimighan bolsa choqum Allahning ozi bilidighan yeri bardu , chunki hemmimizni Allah yaratqan, Alla halisa aysheni peyghembirimizge layiq qilip beralaydu ve shundaq qilip berdi. uning ustige yuqarda diginimdek ottura sherq qurghaq issiq bolghachqa qizlar nahayiti baldur balaghetke yetidu, u chaghlardiki sharait bilen hazirqi sharait ohshimaydu ademlerning qerip olush yeshi u chaghlarda ottura hisap bilen 40- 50 yash bolghan. jemiyetning tuzulmisi ve ayallarning yashash sharaitimu aile terbiyesimu ohshimaydu. Muhammat peyghembirimiz oz waqtida erlerni kop hotunluq bolushqa yol qoyghini, urushta eri olup nurghun ayallar tul qalghachqa u ayallarning turmushta qiynilip qelishining aldini elish uchun shu sharaitqa asasen shundaq qilghan. bu islamdiki belgilep berilgen buni qilsang bolidu buni qilsang bolmaydu digen eniq aq bilen qara rayonning sirtidiki kulreng rayon. kulreng rayonda siz ishlarni sharaitingizge asasen jemiyet tuzulmisige asasen elip barisiz bu rayon bir erkin rayon. chunki islam insanlaning hayatini asan qilishni zulum qilmasliqni terghip qilidu. emma bu digenlik hemme erler davamliq kop hotunluq bolsa bolidu digenlik emes chunki Qur"anda eger hemme jehettin ohshash razi qilalisang 4 hotun rava digen , bu jumlini yeshsingiz eslide hemme jehettin 4 hotunni ohshash razi qilish mumkin emes shunga kop hotunluq bolma digen gep. emma bezi musulmanlarning bala yashtiki qiz bilen oylense toghra bolidu dep qarishi yeni afghanistanda bundaq ehval nahayiti kop, peyghembirimiz bilen ozini tengleshturuvalghini. Islamni burmilap suyistimal qilghinidin bolivatidu. Qur'anning hichbir yeride bala yashtiki qiz bilen oylensenglar bolidu digen gep yok. ayallargha herqandak shekildiki qilinidighan zulum ve azar qattiq cheklinidu Islamda. musulman ellerdiki bezi Ayllarning harlinip qelish mesilillirining hemmisi siyasi ve ijdimai menpeet usitge qurulghan bir tereplimilk fativa we shu jemiyet tuzulmisi ve shu yerde yashighanlarning culturi tupeylidin bolghan ve ularning culturini islam culturi qilivalghanlighinidin bolghan. emililyette orp adet bashqa islam bashqa. orpe adet adetlinip qelish konup qelish bilen davam qilidu. din bolsa u konup qalghanliqtin emes belki ALLAH qa ishinish, ALLahtin qorqush uninggha seghinishtin ibaret qanuniyettin bolidu

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