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11-11-09, 19:33
Tuwendiki maqalida professor Bovington Gardner Amrika hokimitining Uyghurlar arisidiki uchurlarni hitttaygha yetkuzup beridighan Uyghur jasuslarni tekshurwatqanlighi we bu heqte saqchilarning uning bilen sozleshkenligi tilgha elinghan. Dimek Amerikidiki Babur Mehsutlarmu pata-arida pash bolghudek.

Tuwende ikki paragraphni terjime qilip qoydum.

"The timing has to be significant," says Professor Bovingdon. The Guantánamo Uighurs are "major playing pieces in the game ... to persuade people that there are Uighur terrorists, and that therefore Uighur dissidents should be identified as terrorists." He adds that Beijing might have sought Uighur-to-Uighur statements about the US or the war on terror to bolster its claims.

Terjimisi: "Mehsutning Adil Hekim Swedenda panaliq tilep ikki aydin kiyinla Uyghurlar ustidin uchur yollashqa bashlighanlighi tasadi bolmisa kirek" dep korsetti Professor Bovington, "Chunki Guantanamodiki Uyghurlar oyundiki asasliq ertisler. Beijing Uyghurlarning oz-ara Amerika yaki terrorism urishi toghrisida digen sozliri arqiliq Uyghurlar arisida terroristlar bar, shunga hittay hokimitige qarshi Uyghurlar terrorist qatarida sanilishi kirek digen meydanini algha surishni izdigen bolsa kirek".


"The Chinese government has sent people from China, including Xinjiang, out into the world to keep tabs on other people. There's no question about this," says the professor. He also notes that, in the past, he has been contacted by US authorities concerning an investigation somewhat similar to Mehsut's.

"Hittay hokimiti kishiler ustidin uchur toplap ularni tizginlep turish wezipisi bilen dunyaning her qaysi jaylirighan Hittaydin, jumlidin Xinjiandin adem chiqiridu. Buninggha guman sighmaydu" didi Proffessor Bovington. U hem burun Amrika hokimitining Mehsutningkige ohshap kitidighan bir tekshurish dilosi ustide uzi bilen alaqe qilghanlighini eyitti.

[quote:] Dalarna, Sweden - The arrest in Sweden of a Uighur exile on charges of "refugee espionage" last month hints at how far China's efforts may extend to keep tabs on the ethnic group it considers a threat to the state.

The Swedish Security Police (Säpo) arrested Babur Mehsut, a Uighur exile and naturalized Swedish citizen, on June 4. According to Tomas Lindstrand, chief prosecutor of Sweden's International Prosecutor's Office, the crime involves the "unlawful acquisition and distribution of information relating to individuals for the benefit of a foreign power," in this case, China.

Mr. Lindstrand states that the alleged crimes occurred from January 2008 to June of this year in Sweden and abroad. Mr. Mehsut is known to have attended a meeting of the World Uyghur Congress in Washington this May.

Analysts and Uighur exiles say that China has an intelligence network aimed at monitoring developments in the Uighur diaspora and trying to sow dissension within and among Uighur groups. There is also wide agreement that Uighur operatives involved in the network are often coerced into it by the Chinese authorities.

Uighur expatriates can face "threats" to their family members still living in China, with the Chinese authorities seeking "to stop behavior they don't like, or encourage behavior they want," says Gardner Bovingdon, a Central Eurasia expert at Indiana University in Bloomington.

Diplomatic row ensues

Shortly after Mehsut's arrest, Sweden expelled a Chinese diplomat; Beijing promptly expelled a Swedish diplomat in return. Repeated attempts to get a comment by Chinese officials at Stockholm's Chinese Embassy have proved fruitless, and the Swedish Foreign Ministry had no comment on either Mehsut's arrest or the diplomatic expulsions.

Ministry spokeswoman Cecilia Julin did, however, say that the ministry is acting in accord with the statement on Säpo's website that "democratic states do not engage in refugee espionage."

Keeping tabs on Guantánamo detainee?

The tensions between China and Sweden over Sweden's Uighurs date back to at least November 2007, when Adil Hakimjan, one of the Uighurs who had been incarcerated at Guantánamo, the United States prison camp, was released and sought political asylum in Sweden. Sweden has a Chinese Uighur population of about 100.

According to Lindstrand, Mehsut allegedly began spying for the Chinese two months after Mr. Hakimjan's arrival here, in January 2008.

"The timing has to be significant," says Professor Bovingdon. The Guantánamo Uighurs are "major playing pieces in the game ... to persuade people that there are Uighur terrorists, and that therefore Uighur dissidents should be identified as terrorists." He adds that Beijing might have sought Uighur-to-Uighur statements about the US or the war on terror to bolster its claims.

Formerly classified Swedish government documents, revealed in May, detail the extraordinary pressure the Chinese embassy put on Sweden's foreign ministry not to grant Hakimjan asylum.

China called Hakimjan a "terrorist," though both Sweden and the US officials say that he is an innocent refugee. Sweden gave Hakimjan asylum in April.

Dilshat Rashit, a spokesman for the World Uyghur Congress who resides in Sweden, says that Mehsut had been in Hakimjan's company on a number of occasions.

When contacted about the Mehsut case, Hakimjan declined to comment on it, but noted that he "hopes the Chinese government will find the compassion to allow his wife and children to leave China and join him in Sweden."

Mehsut's arrest causes surprise

Uighurs interviewed for this story, who knew Mehsut, expressed shock that he had been arrested for spying.

Dolkun Isa, secretary-general of the World Uyghur Congress, who resides in Germany, says that Mehsut had appeared beyond reproach. He describes Mehsut as a former mayor of Xinjiang Province's Hotan City who was brought to Sweden from Hong Kong by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.

When asked if spying was a problem in the Uighur diaspora, Mr. Isa acknowledges that it is, and spoke of the pressures felt by parents and relatives living in China.

'We will hurt your family'

Bovingdon says that, although Mehsut's arrest is the first he's aware of regarding spying in the Uighur diaspora, it is widely believed that such spying has long transpired.

"The Chinese government has sent people from China, including Xinjiang, out into the world to keep tabs on other people. There's no question about this," says the professor. He also notes that, in the past, he has been contacted by US authorities concerning an investigation somewhat similar to Mehsut's.

He also describes accounts of expatriate Uighurs receiving phone calls from people who identify themselves as Chinese intelligence sources saying that "unless you do something for us, we will hurt your family."

According to Patrik Peter, press secretary for the Swedish Security Police, the investigation of Mehsut is ongoing and a trial could begin as early as September.

Björn Hurtig, Mehsut's attorney, says he can give no comment about the case "because of both my client's wishes and the court order." [quote]

Unregistered
11-11-09, 20:25
uzimizmu pash qilsaq yahshi bolatti, bizning jasusning arkiga chushidighan bir mehpiy teshkilatimiz bolsiken deymen.......uyghurning qolidinmu kelidu bu ish!!!

Unregistered
11-11-09, 20:44
Ejep yahxi boptu. arimizdiki ixpiyonning axkarlinixigha yene neqqe yil kitidighandu?

Unregistered
11-11-09, 21:31
Ejep yahxi boptu. arimizdiki ixpiyonning axkarlinixigha yene neqqe yil kitidighandu?

Amercidiki "baburlar" udul wetenge yetkuzmeydu , belkim bular otura asiya doletliri arqiliq aylandurup ishpiyonloq qilidu.....America hokumutige kopppppp teshekur .....Amercida ishpiyonloq qiliwatqanlar ikki turluk dep oylaymen biri : Hichqandaq ma'arip sewisi kormigen emma jemiyette uzun yillardin qaghdalma bolup ketken hem bashqilarning hisdashliqigha iriship bu yaqqa utupla otken kunlirini untup aqsaliq qilip ozini Amercigha kelipla bir kechide bilimdar bolup hemmini bilip ketken qiyapatke kiriwelep turup ishpiyonloq qiliwatqanlar...yene biri izchil halda Uyghur dawasigha arlishqan ...

Unregistered
11-11-09, 22:20
Amerika bundaq ishlarda Swedendin kop tejirbilik. Yipni uzun qoyiwetip beliqning yoghinini yaki hemmisini bir doda tutidu. Tuydurmay turup hemmisini bir-birlep jaylap bolup bir kundila ularni tutup chawisini chitqa yeyip adem bolghinigha toyghuzwetidu. Uyghurlargha asiliq qilghan hezlekler turmidiki qara tenlik jinayetchilerge hotun bolup hayatining ahirini otkuzidu. Amerikining turmilliri duwzaqtin anche qelishmaydu. Jasuslar zadi duwzaqqa tewe.

Unregistered
12-11-09, 04:24
demisimu bu chuprandila bekla awup kitiwatidu burun ozini axkara qilmighanliri yengidin kalghan liribilan birlikta beklam aldirax ...

Unregistered
12-11-09, 10:22
Amercidiki "baburlar" udul wetenge yetkuzmeydu , belkim bular otura asiya doletliri arqiliq aylandurup ishpiyonloq qilidu.....America hokumutige kopppppp teshekur .....Amercida ishpiyonloq qiliwatqanlar ikki turluk dep oylaymen biri : Hichqandaq ma'arip sewisi kormigen emma jemiyette uzun yillardin qaghdalma bolup ketken hem bashqilarning hisdashliqigha iriship bu yaqqa utupla otken kunlirini untup aqsaliq qilip ozini Amercigha kelipla bir kechide bilimdar bolup hemmini bilip ketken qiyapatke kiriwelep turup ishpiyonloq qiliwatqanlar...yene biri izchil halda Uyghur dawasigha arlishqan ...

Belki toghra,Amerikidiki Baburlar udul wetenge yetkuzmise kerek,Amma Losanglestiki Hitay Bashkonsulhaneside bala-chaqiliri bilen Chaghan otkuzup, kongul achqach yetkuzidu, bu eniq.

Bundaq Muhim yerlerdiki Shehsiyetler her yili yazda huddi Qoghunluqqa barghandek,Hitaygha barghanda ,Hitay En Quan Tingidiki Hitaylar peyige chushmemdu,?sirliq soal sorimamdu,? Hitay dewleti shunchilik bihotmu,? shunchilik Uyghur meselesige we hetta Amerika Nasadiki ishlargha alaqisizmu,? eng yahshisini shu barghanlar ozi bilidu.amma shumu raski, Amerika hokumetimu bundaqlargha qarshi bihot emes, alaqesiz emes,

I.M : MEKKE

Unregistered
12-11-09, 13:18
way way bak yahxi boluptu!

Unregistered
12-11-09, 13:43
Bu bette bore keldi bore keldi dep kunde towlaydighanlar bar. Bu borimu hejep kelmidi.
Bore kelsimu kop ademler ishenmigudek haletke yetti.
Ishpiyonning yoqlighigha ishenmeymen. Emma ishpiyonliq qelish uchun ular topning eng ichki qismida bolishi shert. Sewebi hittaylar biz oylighandek dot emes. Yaki yuqiridi Uyghur tetqiq qelidighan amerkiliqlarning etrapida aylinip kitelmey yurgenler bolishi kirek.

Unregistered
12-11-09, 14:44
aginiler! arimizdin zadi bir ixpion qikmiguche kunglimiz aram tapmaidigan ohshaidu he?
dawamlik tirishaili

Unregistered
12-11-09, 15:44
Bu bette bore keldi bore keldi dep kunde towlaydighanlar bar. Bu borimu hejep kelmidi.
Bore kelsimu kop ademler ishenmigudek haletke yetti.
Ishpiyonning yoqlighigha ishenmeymen. Emma ishpiyonliq qelish uchun ular topning eng ichki qismida bolishi shert. Sewebi hittaylar biz oylighandek dot emes. Yaki yuqiridi Uyghur tetqiq qelidighan amerkiliqlarning etrapida aylinip kitelmey yurgenler bolishi kirek.

Toghra. Shularning yeqinliri.

Unregistered
12-11-09, 18:26
aginiler! arimizdin zadi bir ixpion qikmiguche kunglimiz aram tapmaidigan ohshaidu he?
dawamlik tirishaili

Siz xitay ishpiyunlirining ziyankeshlikige uchrap baqqanmu? gepingizdin qarighanda uchrimighandek qilisiz. nimishke desingiz, gepingizde xitay ishpiyunlirigha nepretmu yoq, xuddi xitay ishpiyunlirigha tunishliq beriwatqandek qilisiz.

bilingki qerindishim, xitay ishpiyunliri Uyghurlargha ziyanliqtin bashqa nerse ekelmeydu. belki siz deyishingiz mumkin, ishpiyunlar $4,000 yaki $15,000 yaki 100,000 EURO pul beridu, dep. bundaq pullar bikarliq pullar emes.

Unregistered
12-11-09, 20:29
Siz bu ikki türning qaysigha mənsup ?
Mənchə sizning qerindashlarni bundaq türgə ayrip öz-ara ittipaqsizliq qilishingizning özimu siz digən ikki türgə yənə yengi bir tür qoshup biridu dəp oylaymən.




Amercidiki "baburlar" udul wetenge yetkuzmeydu , belkim bular otura asiya doletliri arqiliq aylandurup ishpiyonloq qilidu.....America hokumutige kopppppp teshekur .....Amercida ishpiyonloq qiliwatqanlar ikki turluk dep oylaymen biri : Hichqandaq ma'arip sewisi kormigen emma jemiyette uzun yillardin qaghdalma bolup ketken hem bashqilarning hisdashliqigha iriship bu yaqqa utupla otken kunlirini untup aqsaliq qilip ozini Amercigha kelipla bir kechide bilimdar bolup hemmini bilip ketken qiyapatke kiriwelep turup ishpiyonloq qiliwatqanlar...yene biri izchil halda Uyghur dawasigha arlishqan ...