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M.Tohti
12-02-09, 13:46
Kanadadiki "Canadian Coalition for Democracy" namliq teshkilat Guantanamo Uyghurlirining Kanada'gha qobul qilinmasliqi heqqide imza kampanyasi bashlatti.

barliq Uyghurlarning bu teshkilatqa qarita email we het yezisihini soraymen.

Mezkur teshkilat bashlatqan Imza Kampanyasi uchun Ulanma towende:

http://canadiancoalition.com/forum/messages/35288.shtml

Unregistered
12-02-09, 14:25
Memet ependim, bu towendiki xetning neride siz "Gitmo Uyghurliri" digen sozni kordingiz?? Adwukatlar jimjit qiliwatqan ishni siz metbuatqa chiqip sozlep Jason Kinny bilen korushkiningizni confidential tutalmighan idingiz, mana bugun hem xitayning etisila dunyagha Gitmodiki uyghurlarni qobul qilmasliqqa tehdid selishige, hem Canadaning "biz texi qobul qilimiz dimigentuq" diyishige, hem bugun mana Canada xelqining naraziliq korsitishige sewep bolupsiz.

Birer netije chiqqandin keyin maxtanghan bolsaqmu kechekmes bolar iduq.

Unregistered
12-02-09, 14:46
Hetni oqumisang elwette kormeysen-de
hetke qarap pikir bermemsen.
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Canada must support US trial of Omar Khadr & reject refugee status for Gitmo ex-detainees
217 Signatures

Published by Andrew King on Feb 12, 2009
Category: International Affairs
Region: Canada
Target: Residents of Canada
[Sign Petition]
Background (Preamble):
Open letter from Canadians to the Prime Minister of Canada

The Right Honourable Stephen Harper
Prime Minister of Canada
80 Wellington Street
Ottawa, ON K1A 0A2
Email: pm@pm.gc.ca

February 2009

CANADA MUST NOT INTERFERE WITH U.S. JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS AGAINST ACCUSED MURDERER OMAR KHADR, OR GRANT REFUGEE STATUS TO FORMER DETAINEES OF GUANTANAMO BAY

Dear Mr. Prime Minister,

Western countries such as Britain, Spain and the United States have suffered the barbaric killing and maiming of innocent civilians at the hands of people living within their borders who were linked to Islamist terror. Terror-linked individuals have cost Western nations immensely, both in terms of human suffering and diminished personal freedom. Any government that claims to defend the security and freedoms of Canadians is duty-bound not to take steps that potentially increase this threat of terror while offering no demonstrated benefit to the vast majority of Canadians.

Yet, Canadians are now facing the prospect that the lobbying by certain hardline Muslim and Arab groups and their enablers will result in the return to Canada of alleged terrorist Omar Khadr now charged with murder and held in Guantanamo Bay by United States authorities. In addition, Canadians are faced with the very real possibility that individuals who have no connection to Canada, including several Chinese Uighur Muslims in Guantanamo Bay, will be granted refugee status in Canada because of the risks they may face if returned to China. There are many potential refugees from other regions who have never been associated with Islamist terror and who were not apprehended while operating at the pleasure of al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. These people have a much greater claim to Canadian refugee status than these Guantanamo detainees.

With dozens of former Guantanamo detainees returning to terror upon their release, the Stephen Harper government must not expose Canadians to the risks and costs of increased Islamist terror in Canada. Where the rights of a refugee applicant conflict with the right of ordinary Canadians to live free of terror, it is the security of Canadians that must come first.

With this in mind, the signatories below hereby request that the Government of Canada abstain from any intervention in the course of the United States' prosecution of Mr. Omar Khadr, and refuse to cooperate with initiatives aimed at facilitating refugee claims by any current or former detainees of Guantanamo Bay or comparable facilities.

Background on Omar Khadr:

Islamic extremist members of Canada's notorious Khadr "First Family of Terror" are pressing Canada's Government to demand that the United States release family member Omar Khadr from US custody, and to return him to Canada. Soon after 9/11, Khadr was arrested along with terrorist forces on an Afghan battlefield, and is charged by American authorities with the unlawful killing of a young American soldier, and the maiming of another. He is awaiting trial at the military prison at Guatanamo Bay.

Dr. Daniel Pipes, author and expert on counterterrorism, provides a summary of the Khadr family's long history of involvement with Islamist terror:

- Patriarch Ahmad Said al-Khadr met Osama bin Laden in 1985, funneled Canadian taxpayer moneys to him, eventually moving his entire family to Afghanistan to join him, dying in an October 2003 shoot-out with Pakistani forces.

- Wife Maha Elsamnah took her then-14-year-old son Omar from Canada to Pakistan in 2001 and enrolled him for Al-Qaeda training.

- Daughter Zaynab, 23, was engaged to one terrorist and married, with Osama bin Laden himself present at the nuptials, a Qaeda member in 1999. Zaynab endorses the 9/11 atrocities and hopes her infant daughter will die fighting Americans.

- Son Abdullah, 22, is a Qaeda fugitive constantly on the move to elude capture. Canadian intelligence states he ran a Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan during the Taliban period, something Abdullah denies.

- Son Abdurahman, 21, reluctantly trained with Al-Qaeda, was captured by coalition forces in November 2001 and agreed to work for the Central Intelligence Agency in Kabul, Guantanamo, and Bosnia. He returned to Canada in October 2003, where he denounced both extremism ("I want to be a good, strong, civilized, peaceful Muslim") and his family's terroristic ways.

- Son Omar, 17, stands accused of hurling a grenade in July 2002, killing a U.S. medic in Afghanistan. Omar lost sight in one eye in the fighting and is now a U.S. detainee in Guantanamo.

- Son Abdul Karim, 14, half-paralyzed by wounds sustained in the October 2003 shoot-out that left his father dead, is presently prisoner in a Pakistani hospital.

In February 2009, the Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-CAN) launched an initiative in support of Khadr's freedom. CAIR-CAN is the Canadian chapter of a US organization designated an "unindicted co-conspirator" by the US Department of Justice in the Holy Land Foundation terror trial in which all defendants were found guilty of enabling Islamist terror. CAIR-CAN also refuses to condemn by name such terrorist enterprises as Hezbollah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

CAIR-CAN's Khadr campaign produced a highly-publicized letter to the Prime Minister of Canada, calling on Mr. Harper to press US authorities for Khadr's release. The letter was signed by Islamic advocacy organizations such as the Canadian Arab Federation, the Canadian Muslim Civil Liberties Association, and Canadian Muslim Lawyers Association. Apparently unaware of nature of some of these groups, a variety of other people and organizations have signed and associated themselves with this letter, including Mr. Alex Neve, Secretary General, Amnesty International (English Section), an organization whose public funding, through its federal tax-free charitable status, would appear to be at odds with this highly political initiative. Together, the letter's signatories seem to claim that Mr. Khadr should be freed and taken in by Canada, on the grounds that Khadr (1) is a Canadian citizen, (2) was fifteen years old at the time of his arrest, (3) could not get a fair trial in the US and (4) should be tried in Canada.

These claims are misleading. Neither Canadian nor any other citizenship grants immunity from prosecution abroad for terrorism, war crimes or crimes against humanity. Neither is there a bar in international law to prosecuting war criminals who may have been as young as fifteen at the time of alleged offences. As for the issue of fairness in the expected US prosecution, the American Government has made changes in trial proceedings in order to remedy procedural weaknesses identified by the US Supreme Court. Contrary to claims made by radical Islamists and their mistaken supporters - including activist professors - these changes are expected to ensure that Mr. Khadr's trial will be consistent with American constitutional requirements. Moreover, as in any other criminal trial in the US and Canada, court proceedings involving Mr. Khadr will continue to be subject to supervision by higher courts. As for a trial in Canada, this prospect is speculative and doubtful, given that the victims of the crime for which Omar Khadr is charged are American and US security forces have had had the entire chain of custody both of Khadr and the evidence against him from apprehension to trial.

Canadians would not permit a foreign country to dictate the release of an alleged criminal killer of one of its soldiers, from Canada's justice system. Likewise, Americans have the right to complete, without Canadian or other foreign interference, the prosecution in their country of Mr. Khadr or any other person charged with murder. Canadians should therefore expect their Government to stand up to radical Islamists and their misguided associates. In particular, the Government of Canada must stand fast, and avoid any behaviour that could be construed as interference in our neighbour's legal system and sovereign constitutional right to protect itself. To do otherwise would set a dangerous international precedent that could later invite foreign interference in Canada's own judicial system. As an insult to the American constitutional order, interference could rebound on Canada's genuine interest in positive, productive bilateral Canada-US relations.

Background on refugee claims by Uighur Chinese:

Members belonging to the Uighur minority of China held at Guantanamo Bay have filed for refugee status in Canada through their Canadian lawyers. These individuals are from a group of 17 Uighurs captured in Afghanistan.

These individuals have no connection to Canada, and while they have not been convicted of specific terrorist crimes, there is no compelling reason why Canada should be the country of choice for their refugee applications. As citizens of China apprehended in Afghanistan, they would normally be returned to China or Afghanistan. China's human rights record has made the US authorities hesitant to pursue this option, and returning them to Afghanistan may endanger the lives of Canadian and US soldiers. There is no reason for Canada to accept custody of these individuals, to have them on Canadian streets, or to sustain the expense of their attendant monitoring, surveillance, legal aid, healthcare and welfare, particularly when Canadians already face economic challenges from financial and security threats.

In short, Canada's Government must not trade our collective security in order to curry favour with radical Canadian pressure groups seeking refugee status and taxpayer support for these individuals.
Petition:
We, the undersigned, call on Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper NOT to jeopardize the safety and freedom of Canadians by repatriating accused terrorist murderer Omar Khadr or granting refugee status to former detainees of Guantanamo Bay.

Unregistered
12-02-09, 16:09
Ependim/Hanim

Towendikilerning kopchilikte bar bolghan bezi chushenje kemlikige yardemchi bolishini soraymen:

1:Guantanamo'diki Uyghurlar dunyaning her yerida mohim hewer bolup kelgenge ohshash Kanadadimu daim hewer bolup keldi. buningdin kiyinmu shundaq bolsa kirek.

2:Guantanamo'diki Uyghurlarning deslepke Iltimasi otken yili 10-ayning ahirida hokumetke tapshuruldi, taki bu yil 2-ayning 3-kunigiche metbuatlarda uzaq tutuldi. bu yil 2-ayning 3-kunidiki metbuat hewerlirining ilan qilinishi qarari bu balilargha yol mangghan Adukatlar, Sponsor bolghan teshkilatlar we bu ishqa arlashqanlarning ortaq qarari bolup bir shehis yaki birla organ bilen munasiwetlik emes.

3: Mening hokumet hadimliri bilen bolghan uchrushushum 1-ayning 23-kuni bolghan bolup, bu korushushning tepsilati hich yerde hich bir kishige tehi ashkarilanmidi. hich bir ahbaratta bu heqte bayanatim uchrimaydu. hetta Minister Kenney'din bashqa Bash Ministerliq we tashqiy Ishlar Ministirlqidiki shehislerning ismimu metbuatqa berilmidi. bu heqtiki sezgurlukum bashtin beri dawam qiliwatidu.

4: Minister Kenney'ning ishhanisidin berilgen bayanat, men bilen korushulgendin kiyin berilgen bolup, bu bayanat'ni kopturushning hich orni yoq. bu bayanatning berilishidiki asasliq sewep, Globe and Mail giziti ilan qilghan hewerlerdiki bezi hata chushenjilerge qaritilghan. mesilen: Gizit ozining bu hewer heqqidiki serlewheside "Canada close to accepting three Gitmo detainees" yeni "Kanada Guantanamo Uyghurlirini qobul qilay dep qaldi" digen mewzuni ishletken we qandaqtur "kanada bu Uyghurlarni alishqa az qaptu" digendek chushenjining shekillinishige sewep bolghan.

yene birsi mening sozumni qisqartilip neqil qilinish bilen hata yekunning chiqishigha sewep bolghan. mesilen: Mening esli bayanim " There is positive consensus on my briefing request and no one was against it, in addition they took a note on my briefing" digen sozum nahayti qisqa halda " there is positive consensus and they were not against it" digen shekilde berilgen. bu jumlidin qandaqtur hokumet organlirida bu Uyghurlarni qobul qelish heqqide ijabi bir qarar birliki bardek bir uqum otturigha chiqqan.

Minister Kenney'ning ishhanisi ilan qilghan bayanatta bu Uyghurlarni qobul qilimiz yaki ret qilimiz digini yoq. peqet otturuluqta tarqiliwatqan goya Kanada bu Uyghurlarni bugun ete qobul qilidighandek bir chushenjige tuzutush berilgen, halas.
bu bayanatni mubalighe qilmasliq kirek.

huddi normal insanlar tehmin qilghandek Guantanamo Uyghurlirining mesilisi uzun we murekkep bir jeryanni beshidin otkuzidighan mesile bolup, bir Ministirlik yaki bir ishhana qarar qilidighan addiy ish emes.

Hokumette, Kabinitta we bashqa dewlet aparatlirida inchike muzakire elip berilidu we eng ahirida hokumet, Gizit hewerliri yaki birawlarning yaki bezi organlarning kampanyasigha qarap emes, belki bu ishning payda ziyinigha qarap qarar beridu.

bu munazire meydanida boluwatqan pikir almashturushlar, qiydashlar we tapa tene qelishlar bolsa emiliyette Kanadada yuz beriwatqan riyal tereqqiyatlar bilen uzaqtin yeqindin munasiwetlik emes. herkim ozining chami yetken we kallisi yetken sewiyede pikirlirini toghra we yaki hata yoldin otturigha tokewatidu.

meyli bu Uyghurlar heqqidiki qarar qandaq netije bilen ahirlashsun, biz Uyghurlar'gha chushken wezipe qolimizdin kilidighan barliq hizmetni toluq qelish, eksik bir ish tashlap qoymasliq we bu ishni taki ahirqi basquchighiche dawamlashturush bolishi kirek.











Memet ependim, bu towendiki xetning neride siz "Gitmo Uyghurliri" digen sozni kordingiz?? Adwukatlar jimjit qiliwatqan ishni siz metbuatqa chiqip sozlep Jason Kinny bilen korushkiningizni confidential tutalmighan idingiz, mana bugun hem xitayning etisila dunyagha Gitmodiki uyghurlarni qobul qilmasliqqa tehdid selishige, hem Canadaning "biz texi qobul qilimiz dimigentuq" diyishige, hem bugun mana Canada xelqining naraziliq korsitishige sewep bolupsiz.

Birer netije chiqqandin keyin maxtanghan bolsaqmu kechekmes bolar iduq.

Unregistered
12-02-09, 16:44
Federal government has no plans to expedite cases of Gitmo detainees




Tue Feb 10, 7:27 PM



By Tobi Cohen, The Canadian Press


MONTREAL - Ottawa has no plans to expedite the cases of five Guantanamo Bay detainees who have secured sponsorship in Canada and are now waiting to see if they can claim refugee status.


"Sponsorship is only one, and I would argue, the least important part of the application process," said Alykhan Velshi, a spokesman for Immigration Minister Jason Kenney.


"Immigration Canada still has to review the applications and historically a very high number of sponsored individuals don't ever end up in Canada."


Safety and security are Canada's No. 1 priority, he said, adding Canadians should be cautioned against sponsoring individuals who have ties with terrorists and could pose a national security risk.


A senior ministry official said Tuesday the application process is likely to take "years rather than months" even though U.S. President Barack Obama has vowed to close the military prison in Cuba.


The Canadian Council for Refugees demanded on Tuesday that Ottawa "resettle without delay" five detainees who fear persecution if returned to their homelands.


Council executive director Janet Dench said sponsors have been found to look after the financial and emotional needs of the men for their first year in Canada.


"According to the government guidelines, if a person is at risk of arbitrary detention, their case is supposed to be treated as one requiring urgent protection," Dench said.


"In the case of all of the detainees at Guantanamo, they're not just at risk of arbitrary detention, they are being arbitrarily detained and have been for six, or in most cases, seven years."


The latest addition to this group - which includes an Algerian who once spent five years living in Montreal and three Uighurs from China - is a 37-year-old Kurd from Syria who had been living in Kabul at the time of his arrest.


Maassoum Abdah Mouhammad, nicknamed "Bilal," had been there for a year working and searching for a wife when the United States invaded Afghanistan after the 9-11 terror attacks in 2001. He was arrested along the Pakistan border while trying to flee.


"I certainly hope that Bilal will be awarded asylum in Canada," his U.S. lawyer, Matt O'Hara, said in a telephone interview Tuesday, the same day a United Church congregation in Toronto submitted its sponsorship application to the federal government.


"He's a person the (U.S.) government has expressed no interest in prosecuting for any crimes. He was not a soldier, he was not involved in terrorist activities.


"He was caught up in really a whole chain of events that put him in the wrong place at the wrong time and it's time for him to get out of prison. It's time for this suffering to stop and for him to go on as best he can with a normal life."


As an ethnic Kurd who's been branded a terrorist by virtue of his arrest and detention by the U.S., Mouhammad fears he will be persecuted if returned to his native Syria.


The Anglican Diocese of Montreal earlier agreed to sponsor 41-year-old Algerian Djamel Ameziane who lived in Montreal between 1995 and 2000 before spending seven years at the U.S. military prison in Cuba.


Meanwhile, the Catholic Diocese of Montreal is promising to sponsor two Uighurs from China who spent seven years in Guantanamo and who wish to remain anonymous because they fear reprisals against their families.

Anwar Hassan, a Uighur from China imprisoned for seven years, has also secured sponsorship from a group of United Church congregations in Toronto.

Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon said in Parliament on Tuesday that Canada has not discussed the fate of Guantanamo prisoners with the U.S. He refused to say if it's something that Prime Minister Stephen Harper will raise with Obama when they meet next week.

Liberal foreign affairs critic Bob Rae said it would be disappointing if Canada, with its record of humanitarianism and dealing with refugee issues, did not discuss the matter with Obama.

"The people that we would be taking would obviously not constitute a security risk."

NDP immigration critic Olivia Chow slammed the federal government for cutting funding for the processing of refugee claims along with 97 jobs last year. She said it's resulted in a backlog of 42,000 applications, 38 per cent more than there were in 1997.

"It's not acceptable," she said.


http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/0...a_10?printer=1

Torontoluq
13-02-09, 10:47
Yeqindin buyan bu munazire meydanida guantanamo(GTM) diki uyghur balilirining kanadagha yerlishish yaki yerleshmesligi mesiliside munaziriler boluwatidu buning ichidiki beziliri choylida tohtighidek teklipler bolsimu emma nurghunliri munazire meydanini qalaymiqan qilish uyghurlarni qaymuqturush rolini oynawatidu shunga bezi chushenchilirimni otturgha qoyushni muwapiq kurdum.

1.kanadadiki melum gezit hewiri memet teripidin yezilghan hewer emes kanada gezitining muhbiri elan qilghan hewer peqet memetni muhbir ziyaret qiptu memetmu uz layighida GTM diki balilarni kanadagha elip qelishini halaymiz wahakaza ......digendek yahshi geplerni qiptu .eger muhbir memetni emes sizni we meni bu tima heqqide ziyaret qilghan bolsa bizmu elbette shu gepni qilghan bolattuq .

2.eger kanadaning bu balilarni elish meydanida igiz peslik kurulse memetning bu hewerni gezit yuzide yeyiwetkenligidin boldi dep qaralsa bu aqilaniliq bolmaydu .yenila shuni tekitlimekchimenki bu hewer kanadadiki melum gezitning muhbiri teripidin yezilghan we kanada gezitliirde elan qilinip bolghandin keyin memet arqiliq bu munazire meydanigha chaplanghan.uning ustige GTM diki uyghurlar mesilisini muhbirlarning qelimidin elip qachqili bolmaydighan kuntertiptiki mesile shundaqla kanada media erkin dewlet undaq bolghanken muhbirlar bu mesilini hergiz sir tutquzmaydu.

3.GTM ni taqash uchun putun dunya tirishchanliq kursutuwatidu.Obamaning GTM ni taqash pilaninin yeqindin qollash uchun yawrupadiki nurghunlighan dewletler arqa arqidin GTM diki tutqunlarni uz dewletlirige qobul qilish meydanlirini ipadilewatidu .yeqinda Girmaniyemu eger amerka halisa bulardin 10 ni qobul qilishni qarar qilghanlighini ashkarilidi.Obamamu wezipige olturup uguni GTM turmisini bir yil ichide taqash qararigha imza qoydi dimekki GTM turmisi bir yil ichide taqilidu .bu yerdiki uyghur balilirimu dunyaning yardimide melum bir dewletke tehsim qilinidu .uyghur baliliri uchun kunlerning ghulichi tugep gherichi qaldi .elbette kanada alghan bolsa yahshi bolatti eger almighan teghdirde ular bashqa bir dewletke orunlashturulidu chunki GTM ahirqi hisapta taqilidu;.

4.Meningche GTm ni taqash pilanidiki eng burun oylushidighan mesile yeni eng burun orunlashturushqa yegishlik kishiler uyghur baliliri bolidu chunki ular alliqachan amerka hukumiti teripidin dushmen jengchisi emes dep qaralghan, shundaqla amerka fdiral sut mehkimisi teripidin gunahsiz dep aqlinip amerkigha qoyup berilishi kerekligi qarar qilinghan kishilerdur.eger teliyimizge ular kanadagha yerliship qalsa bu hergizmu memetning tuhbisidin yaki dunya uyghur qurultiyining tuhbisidin bolghan bolmaydu ,bu elbette dunya adalitining tuhbisi .uyghur teshkilatliri we uning beshidiki kishilerning uyghur bolush shundaqla uyghur dawasining wekilliri bolush supiti bilen ,bular bizning ademlirimizti ulargha nahaqchiliq boluwatidu ,ularni qutuldurwalayli dep suzlesh mejburyiti bar elbette. eger ular mushu ikki eghiz gepi uchun shan sherep qazinishqa uchirette turuwatqan bolsa bu ularningla emes belki putkul uyghur dawasining meghlubiyiti bolghan bolidu.

5.Shan sherep we rehmetler aldi bilen GTM diki uyghur baliliri uchun minnetsiz ,tamasiz hizmet qilip keliwatqan we ularni qanche yildin buyan uzluksiz ahlawatqan adukat seybin,bugun yene bu balilarni amerkigha qoyup berishni telep qilghan James. Mc Govern qatarliq kishilerge shundaqla biz bilen hichqandaq dini we medinyet jehettin ortaqlighi yoq turuqluq bu balilarni amerkigha yerleshturush uchun kuch chiqirwatqan amerka we kanadadiki ammiwi teshkilatlargha mensup .uyghur dawasi mujimel bayanatlargha ,kupturwetishlerge,yalghanchiliqlargha, pochiliqlargha kumulup qalghan dawa shuning uchun bu dawa bir sestima we bir izgha chushmeywatidu.

6.yawrupadiki nurghunlighan dewletlerning GTM diki tutqunlarni qobul qilishni elan qilishi hergizmu uyghur teshkilatlirining tuhbiisdin yaki erebistanning ,we yaki bashqa bir musulman dewlitining hizmet ishligenligidin emes peqetla dunya ihtiyaji we dunya adalitining tuhbisi .eger uyghur baliliri yawrupagha yerleshse u yerdiki uyghur teshkilatlirining tuhbisi dep qaralsa kanadagha yerleshse memetning tuhbisi dep qaralsa bu toghra bolmighan bolidu .emma kanadadiki rialliqqa qarighanda qandaqtur bu balilar heqqide ikki egiz heq gep qilish qoyush bedilige mendurmen deydighandek bir hawa mewjut.

7.ikki kunning aldidiki RFA ning GTM diki uyghurlarni kanadaning elishni oylishiwatqanlighi heqqidiki hewiri diqqitimni tartti .bu hewerde memet muhbirgha :"bizning ademlirimiz bu mesilini obamaning semige seliqliq " digen bir jumlini ishletti. memetning bu yerde ishlitiwatqan bizning ademlirimiz digini kimler u dunya uyghur qurultiyimu? yaki memetning shundaq bashqilar uhmaydighan bir gurpa ademliri barmu?bu yerde muhbir sizning, bizning ademlimiz diginingiz kimlerni kursitidu dunya uyghur qurultiyimu we yaki bashqilarmu ular obaning semige qandaq seliqliq konkiritni suzlep bergen bolsingiz digen soalni soriwetken bolsa tehimu yahshi bolghan bolatti.mana mushundaq mujimellikler kishilerning uyghur dawasigha bolghan ishenchisini ajizlashturup qoyidu.memetke bu heqtiki pikirler bek jiq chushti emma nezirige elip qoymaywatidu bundaq mujimellik uyghur dawasini qiliwatqanlarning sapasigha berip taqilidighan eger tuzutulmise uyghur dawasini puchekleshturidighan mesile .men uyghur dawasi mesiliside memtni qollap keliwatqanlarning birimen pikirlirimde bashqilarni haqaretlesh ,ghururigha tegish qatarliq ehwallar kurulmidi dep qaraymen .



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Unregistered
13-02-09, 12:20
Yeqindin buyan bu munazire meydanida guantanamo(GTM) diki uyghur balilirining kanadagha yerlishish yaki yerleshmesligi mesiliside munaziriler boluwatidu buning ichidiki beziliri choylida tohtighidek teklipler bolsimu emma nurghunliri munazire meydanini qalaymiqan qilish uyghurlarni qaymuqturush rolini oynawatidu shunga bezi chushenchilirimni otturgha qoyushni muwapiq kurdum.

1.kanadadiki melum gezit hewiri memet teripidin yezilghan hewer emes kanada gezitining muhbiri elan qilghan hewer peqet memetni muhbir ziyaret qiptu memetmu uz layighida GTM diki balilarni kanadagha elip qelishini halaymiz wahakaza ......digendek yahshi geplerni qiptu .eger muhbir memetni emes sizni we meni bu tima heqqide ziyaret qilghan bolsa bizmu elbette shu gepni qilghan bolattuq .

2.eger kanadaning bu balilarni elish meydanida igiz peslik kurulse memetning bu hewerni gezit yuzide yeyiwetkenligidin boldi dep qaralsa bu aqilaniliq bolmaydu .yenila shuni tekitlimekchimenki bu hewer kanadadiki melum gezitning muhbiri teripidin yezilghan we kanada gezitliirde elan qilinip bolghandin keyin memet arqiliq bu munazire meydanigha chaplanghan.uning ustige GTM diki uyghurlar mesilisini muhbirlarning qelimidin elip qachqili bolmaydighan kuntertiptiki mesile shundaqla kanada media erkin dewlet undaq bolghanken muhbirlar bu mesilini hergiz sir tutquzmaydu.

3.GTM ni taqash uchun putun dunya tirishchanliq kursutuwatidu.Obamaning GTM ni taqash pilaninin yeqindin qollash uchun yawrupadiki nurghunlighan dewletler arqa arqidin GTM diki tutqunlarni uz dewletlirige qobul qilish meydanlirini ipadilewatidu .yeqinda Girmaniyemu eger amerka halisa bulardin 10 ni qobul qilishni qarar qilghanlighini ashkarilidi.Obamamu wezipige olturup uguni GTM turmisini bir yil ichide taqash qararigha imza qoydi dimekki GTM turmisi bir yil ichide taqilidu .bu yerdiki uyghur balilirimu dunyaning yardimide melum bir dewletke tehsim qilinidu .uyghur baliliri uchun kunlerning ghulichi tugep gherichi qaldi .elbette kanada alghan bolsa yahshi bolatti eger almighan teghdirde ular bashqa bir dewletke orunlashturulidu chunki GTM ahirqi hisapta taqilidu;.

4.Meningche GTm ni taqash pilanidiki eng burun oylushidighan mesile yeni eng burun orunlashturushqa yegishlik kishiler uyghur baliliri bolidu chunki ular alliqachan amerka hukumiti teripidin dushmen jengchisi emes dep qaralghan, shundaqla amerka fdiral sut mehkimisi teripidin gunahsiz dep aqlinip amerkigha qoyup berilishi kerekligi qarar qilinghan kishilerdur.eger teliyimizge ular kanadagha yerliship qalsa bu hergizmu memetning tuhbisidin yaki dunya uyghur qurultiyining tuhbisidin bolghan bolmaydu ,bu elbette dunya adalitining tuhbisi .uyghur teshkilatliri we uning beshidiki kishilerning uyghur bolush shundaqla uyghur dawasining wekilliri bolush supiti bilen ,bular bizning ademlirimizti ulargha nahaqchiliq boluwatidu ,ularni qutuldurwalayli dep suzlesh mejburyiti bar elbette. eger ular mushu ikki eghiz gepi uchun shan sherep qazinishqa uchirette turuwatqan bolsa bu ularningla emes belki putkul uyghur dawasining meghlubiyiti bolghan bolidu.

5.Shan sherep we rehmetler aldi bilen GTM diki uyghur baliliri uchun minnetsiz ,tamasiz hizmet qilip keliwatqan we ularni qanche yildin buyan uzluksiz ahlawatqan adukat seybin,bugun yene bu balilarni amerkigha qoyup berishni telep qilghan James. Mc Govern qatarliq kishilerge shundaqla biz bilen hichqandaq dini we medinyet jehettin ortaqlighi yoq turuqluq bu balilarni amerkigha yerleshturush uchun kuch chiqirwatqan amerka we kanadadiki ammiwi teshkilatlargha mensup .uyghur dawasi mujimel bayanatlargha ,kupturwetishlerge,yalghanchiliqlargha, pochiliqlargha kumulup qalghan dawa shuning uchun bu dawa bir sestima we bir izgha chushmeywatidu.

6.yawrupadiki nurghunlighan dewletlerning GTM diki tutqunlarni qobul qilishni elan qilishi hergizmu uyghur teshkilatlirining tuhbiisdin yaki erebistanning ,we yaki bashqa bir musulman dewlitining hizmet ishligenligidin emes peqetla dunya ihtiyaji we dunya adalitining tuhbisi .eger uyghur baliliri yawrupagha yerleshse u yerdiki uyghur teshkilatlirining tuhbisi dep qaralsa kanadagha yerleshse memetning tuhbisi dep qaralsa bu toghra bolmighan bolidu .emma kanadadiki rialliqqa qarighanda qandaqtur bu balilar heqqide ikki egiz heq gep qilish qoyush bedilige mendurmen deydighandek bir hawa mewjut.

7.ikki kunning aldidiki RFA ning GTM diki uyghurlarni kanadaning elishni oylishiwatqanlighi heqqidiki hewiri diqqitimni tartti .bu hewerde memet muhbirgha :"bizning ademlirimiz bu mesilini obamaning semige seliqliq " digen bir jumlini ishletti. memetning bu yerde ishlitiwatqan bizning ademlirimiz digini kimler u dunya uyghur qurultiyimu? yaki memetning shundaq bashqilar uhmaydighan bir gurpa ademliri barmu?bu yerde muhbir sizning, bizning ademlimiz diginingiz kimlerni kursitidu dunya uyghur qurultiyimu we yaki bashqilarmu ular obaning semige qandaq seliqliq konkiritni suzlep bergen bolsingiz digen soalni soriwetken bolsa tehimu yahshi bolghan bolatti.mana mushundaq mujimellikler kishilerning uyghur dawasigha bolghan ishenchisini ajizlashturup qoyidu.memetke bu heqtiki pikirler bek jiq chushti emma nezirige elip qoymaywatidu bundaq mujimellik uyghur dawasini qiliwatqanlarning sapasigha berip taqilidighan eger tuzutulmise uyghur dawasini puchekleshturidighan mesile .men uyghur dawasi mesiliside memtni qollap keliwatqanlarning birimen pikirlirimde bashqilarni haqaretlesh ,ghururigha tegish qatarliq ehwallar kurulmidi dep qaraymen .



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13-02-09, 12:27
Hey Torontoluq,

Guantanamodiki Uyghurlarning ishini memet aldirangghuluq qilip gezitke chiqirwetmigen bolsa, Canadadiki xitaylar herketlenmeyti. Memetning Kenny dostum, muxpir dostum, undaq qildim, bundaq qildim, digini yalghanmu? yaki sen rasni yalghangha ozgerteligidek ademmu mushu Kanadada? memet 2-fiwral gezitke xewer yazghuzdi, xitay tashqi ishlar ministirliki 4-fiwral resmiy shekilde Kanadani, Guantanamodiki Uyghurlarni alimen depsiler, dep eyiplidi.

ozeng digendek, egerde Dunya Adalitining turtkusi bilen Guantanamo Uyghurliri qoyup beriliwatqan bolsa, ulargha aldirap gezitte ipade bildirishtiki mexset nime? ulargha yardem qilishmu yaki buzushmu? ulardin payda elishmu yaki ulargha payda yetkuzishmu?

elwette, waqti kelgende Kanada Hokumiti ozi bayanat ilan qilipla alimiz yaki almaymiz disimu bolidighan gep. lekin hazirmu shundaq qilghini bilen, xitayni herketlendurdi. uqtungmu? buni chetke qaqma.

1-ay ichide Amerikidiki Adwukatlar xeli kop herketlerni qilghanti, emdi hazir Kanada Hokumet bayanatliri bilen, ular qandaq umutsizliklerge duch kelgendu? belki ichide Uyghurlargha ishenchisini yoqatqanmidu yaki ? Guantanamodiki Uyghurlargha diqqet qilip keliwatqan gherp ellirining siyasetchilirichu?

nimige isming bilen yazalmaysen, nimishke ochuq ashkare memetni qollimaysen? bashqilar weten dawasi qilmay nime ish qiliwetiptu? sen weten dawasi deysen, qeni digine, weten dawasi uchun boliwatqan chong ishlarda nimishke kozengni yumiwalding? Uyghur Kanada tarixida qalidighan muhim ishlarda nimishke mushuktek kozengni yumuwalding? nimishke uqmasqa seliwalding? Kanadadiki Uyghurlarning weten dawasi sening qolangda oxshimamda?

Bu doletning ismi Canada, nochi bolghandikin isming bilen meydangha chiq, tamning keynide yoghan gep qilmay.

hazir Kanada Hokumiti alsimu, munasiwetlik bolghan, bir qeder qeyin bolghan, murekkep munasiwetlik bolghan, lekin kireklikmu bolghan yoldin birni tallap mengiweridu. amma Kanada Hokumitimu elwette birinji bolap Kanada Bixeterlikini, Kanada Menpetini oylaydu. birer shexsning dostliqi bilen doletning ishliri igiz-pes bolidighan dolet emes bu.

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13-02-09, 13:53
hey kalwa sen kanadaning qaysi chulide yashaydighan kalwa sen .kanadada ,kanada pirizinti Harpermu bir muhbirgha uzining menpeti uchun hewer yazghuzalmaydighan bir dewlet .memet muhbirlargha dep hewer yazghuzalaydighan kanadaning padishasimiken.hey..................sen mushu kalwalighing bilen kanadada qandaqmu yashawatqansen .esit sendek kalwa uuyghurlar jiq kelgiche eqilliqrek birsi kelsichu

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13-02-09, 14:22
hey kalwa sen kanadaning qaysi chulide yashaydighan kalwa sen .kanadada ,kanada pirizinti Harpermu bir muhbirgha uzining menpeti uchun hewer yazghuzalmaydighan bir dewlet .memet muhbirlargha dep hewer yazghuzalaydighan kanadaning padishasimiken.hey..................sen mushu kalwalighing bilen kanadada qandaqmu yashawatqansen .esit sendek kalwa uuyghurlar jiq kelgiche eqilliqrek birsi kelsichu

shu emesmu, memet oziche texi taghni bagh qiliwatimen, dep bayanat yezip ketkenti. toweee... tas qaptikenmen ishinip qalghili, emdi siler bolmighan bolsanglar ishinip qalarmenken....

birsi, siler qalghan 14 ademni ekelsenglar bolmamdu, digenti. qarighanda memet 3 ademni men ekeldim, digen bolsa kirek he?

Unregistered
13-02-09, 22:17
Hey adashlar sarang hotundek ushshaq gep qilmay telep boyiche azraq hesse qushushmamsen!

Unregistered
14-02-09, 01:13
chetelliklerningki, jumlidin Adwukat Sabin ependining Guantanamo Uyghurliri heqqide eytqanliri korunglar, yuzinglar qizirip qalsimu, xapa bolmay korersiler. "texi urush tugimidi" deptu, aldirap qehriman boliwalmanglar, digen mena chiqamdu, nime?

http://www.rfa.org/uyghur/xewerler/tepsili_xewer/seybin-guantanamo-uyghurliri-02122009033248.html?encoding=latin

Seybén wellit ependi mundaq deydu: " téxi 'urush' ayaqlashmidi, güentanamoda hélihem 17 neper uyghur tutup turuluwatidu, bu ishni tügetmigüche, biz toxtap qalmaymiz elwette, mehkimide nurghun qétim sot boldi, bu mesilide xelqning hésdashliqini qolgha keltürüsh paaliyetliri élip bérildi. Bu xil paaliyetlirimiz hazir albaniyide yashawatqan 5 uyghurning qoyup bérilishide muhim rol oynidi. Emdi biz nöwette, güentanamo türmiside tutup turuluwatqan 17 neper uyghur mehbusning tézdin qoyup bérilgenlikini körüshni ümid qilimiz."

http://www.rfa.org/uyghur/xewerler/tepsili_xewer/seybin-guantanamo-uyghurliri-02122009033248.html?encoding=latin

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14-02-09, 08:49
Sapasi towen millet digen bizdek bolamdighandu? kilghan ixning tayini yok "men kildim"ni talixix bilen aware. ete ugen u balilar koyup birilse ix bar ohximamdu? bu meydan u wakitta "men kildim" bilen toxup ketkidek. torontuluk kirindiximizning yazghanliri top toghridek turidu. Hazirki rialikni yahxi eks etturup biriptu. menmu memetning radiodiki sozini anglap bu ademning her bir sikunta oznini korsutuxge aran turghan birsi ikenligini his kilghan idim. Un tunsiz millet uqun hekiki tohpe yaritiwatkan kixilirmiz, ozining hayati bedilige uyghur dep otturgha qikiwatkan uyghurlirmiz hekiki biz kedirlexke hormetlexke tigixlik, soyumluk uyghurlirmiz. "Men kildim" diguqiler torontuluk kirindiximiz yazghan bu kurlarni ukup bikinglar, nomus kilip kalarsiler.

."Meningche GTm ni taqash pilanidiki eng burun oylushidighan mesile yeni eng burun orunlashturushqa yegishlik kishiler uyghur baliliri bolidu chunki ular alliqachan amerka hukumiti teripidin dushmen jengchisi emes dep qaralghan, shundaqla amerka fdiral sut mehkimisi teripidin gunahsiz dep aqlinip amerkigha qoyup berilishi kerekligi qarar qilinghan kishilerdur.eger teliyimizge ular kanadagha yerliship qalsa bu hergizmu memetning tuhbisidin yaki dunya uyghur qurultiyining tuhbisidin bolghan bolmaydu ,bu elbette dunya adalitining tuhbisi .uyghur teshkilatliri we uning beshidiki kishilerning uyghur bolush shundaqla uyghur dawasining wekilliri bolush supiti bilen ,bular bizning ademlirimizti ulargha nahaqchiliq boluwatidu ,ularni qutuldurwalayli dep suzlesh mejburyiti bar elbette. eger ular mushu ikki eghiz gepi uchun shan sherep qazinishqa uchirette turuwatqan bolsa bu ularningla emes belki putkul uyghur dawasining meghlubiyiti bolghan bolidu.

5.Shan sherep we rehmetler aldi bilen GTM diki uyghur baliliri uchun minnetsiz ,tamasiz hizmet qilip keliwatqan we ularni qanche yildin buyan uzluksiz ahlawatqan adukat seybin,bugun yene bu balilarni amerkigha qoyup berishni telep qilghan James. Mc Govern qatarliq kishilerge shundaqla biz bilen hichqandaq dini we medinyet jehettin ortaqlighi yoq turuqluq bu balilarni amerkigha yerleshturush uchun kuch chiqirwatqan amerka we kanadadiki ammiwi teshkilatlargha mensup .uyghur dawasi mujimel bayanatlargha ,kupturwetishlerge,yalghanchiliqlargha, pochiliqlargha kumulup qalghan dawa shuning uchun bu dawa bir sestima we bir izgha chushmeywatidu"