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Rushan Abbas
16-10-08, 02:05
Mohterem muteppekkurlirimiz, bayanatchilirimiz, muxbirlirimiz we qerindashlirimiz,

Otken heftiki 7-oktebir rayonluq sotta sotchi Urbinaning qararidin keyin, heqiqetenmu putun dunya uyghurliri uchun bayram tentenesi boldi. Bu 17 qerindishimizning ghelibisini tebriklendi. Ular toghrisida nurghunlighan teripleshler yezildi. Nurghunlighan medhiyeler we bahalashlar boldi. Bu 17 qerindashqa heqiqetenmu putkul dunya uyghurliri qanche rexmet eytsaq, maxtisaq erziydu. Biraq bu ghelibe tel-tokus bolsun. Ularni maxtiduq dep, tizrek erkinlikke chiqish porsetini yiraqlashturmayli. Ular heqiqi erkinlikke erishkendin keyin qandaq namlarda, qandaq sherhiyelep, qandaq maxtisaq bolidu. Shu chaghda qanghuche qilsaqmu kechikken bolmaymiz. Ular awal erkinlikke chiqsun. Suni korup, su boyigha kelip andin ayighimizni salayli.

Guwantanamodiki 17 qerindishimiz texi GTMOda. Ularni texi Amerika yaki birer bixeter dolet qobul qilghini yoq. Ular texi aile-tewabatliri bilen (7 yildin beri) birer qetimmu telpunda awazini anglashqini yoq. Ular 7 yildin beri turmide. 7 yildin beri ailisidikiliri oz oghlining texiche hayat ikenligini bilmeydighanliri bar. 7 yildin beri ata-anisi bilen alaqe qilip, ozlirining saq-salamet yaki hayat-mamatlighini ata-anisigha bildurmigenliri bar (hazirmu gerche qol-putliri kishenliniglik emes yaki tebii kun ve havadinmu behriman bolalmasliqtek sharaittin kop yaxshi bolghan orunda bolsimu yenila nezerbent astida, yenila GTMOda, yenila herbining qorali ve lagiri astida nezerbentte). Ularning hazirqi ehwalini chushineyli qerindashlar.

Bugun NY waqti gezitide ilan qilin’ghan tovendiki maqalide “Hukumet ichide bu 17 kishining xeterlik kishiler ikenligi toghriliq munazireliri seveplik, tashqi ishlar ministirligining ular uchun bixeter dolet izdesh sepiri emeldin qalduruldi.” dep yezilghan.

Bu 17 qerindishimiz saq-salamet QOYUP BERILGEN’GE QEDER, erkinlikke erishkenge qeder, men towenchilik bilen her biringlardin iltija qilimenki, towendikidek geplerni oz hissiyatimiz bilen qilishqa bekmu diqqet qilghan bolsaq.

Bu towendikidek sozler heqiqet emes. Bundaq sozler ularni julalashturup teripligenlik emes belki ularning erkinlikke eririshini aylap-aylap uzartiwetishi mumkin. Ulargha yaxshi niyitimiz bilen, mihir-muhebbet korsettuq, hormet bildurduq dep, “dushmenlik” qilghanliq bolup qalmisun.

Ularmu sizdek, bizdek erkin hayatqa tizrek erishsun!

1. GTMO diki 17 qerindashning “bir qismi” hergizmu “Sh.Turkistan Islam Herkiti” teshkilatining ezaliri emes. Xitayning shundaq qara chaplighinidin bashqa metbuatlarda undaq dep baqmighan.

2. Ular musteqqiliq jengchiliri emes. Xitayning zulumigha chidimay heq-hoquq izdep, wetinini tashlap chiqip ketken 17 Uyghur yigiti xalas.

3. Ularning idologiyesi hichqandaq teshkilatlargha beqindi emes. Ularni SH.T.I.H bilen chatmayli, munasiwetleshturmeyli. Birge tehlil qilishmayli.

4. Ular 6 yerim yildin beri GTMO da, onlap-yuzlep qilin’ghan soraqlarda ozlirining kim ikenligini, Afghanistanda nime qilghanlighini rastchilliq bilen hukumetke eytip bolghan. Hukumet, herbimu oz tekshurushlirini elip berip ularning digenlirini muqimlashturup-ispatlap bolghan. Shunga ularni "dushmen jengchisi emes" dep qarar qildi. Heqiqetni bilmigen kishilerning hayajanda, shadlighida qilghan turluk sozliri bilen, ulargha her xil artuqche nersiler chaplinip qalmisun.

5. Ularni Amerikadiki 20 nechche advukat 2 yildin artuq vaqitlirini serip qilip, Amerikadiki oxshimighan sotlarda devasini elip bardi. Shu uzun jeryanlarda, advukatlar u yerdiki balilarning ozliri bilen sozliship, sotmu ozliri izdinip, tetqiq qilip, ispat-pakitlirini korup, axiri “hichqandaq teshkilatlar bilen alaqisi yoq” dep hoqum chiqardi.

Birqanche kishilirimizning qilghan tehlilliri, analizliri bilen, sozliri bilen 6 yerim yildin beri bigunah yetivatqan balilargha yene uwal bolmisun!

Eger sozum eghir ketken bolsa kechurum soraymen biraq bu mesilining novette qanchiliq jiddi ikenligini perez qilalishinglarni otunup soraymen!

Diqqitinglargha kop rexmet!

Hormet bilen,
Rushan Abbas


Release of 17 Guantánamo Detainees Sputters as Officials Debate the Risk
by William Glaberson
Published: October 15, 2008
An urgent effort by the Bush administration to find a country willing to accept 17 detainees held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has stalled because of a bitter dispute inside the government about whether the men are dangerous.
The administration stepped up its search for a new home for the detainees, members of the Uighur Muslim minority in western China, after a federal judge ordered them to be released inside the United States a week ago.
But because of the dispute within the administration, an American ambassador canceled a trip for international negotiations about the fate of the 17 men that had been scheduled to begin Monday.
People briefed on the issue said that the State Department, which is charged with trying to resettle Guantánamo detainees by coaxing other countries to accept them, argued that the Justice Department compromised diplomatic efforts with a court filing Friday that asserted that the Uighurs should not be released inside the United States. The filing described them as “a danger to the public” and as men who had been trained in insurrection.
“Based on what they were saying in the brief, it made it impossible to conduct negotiations,” said an administration official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he had not been authorized to discuss the dispute.
The State Department has often been at odds with the Justice Department and the Pentagon over detainee issues, at times arguing that those agencies do not take sufficient account of Guantánamo’s impact on international relations.
The Uighur detainees have been at the center of a contentious legal confrontation that drew wide attention with a ruling from Judge Ricardo M. Urbina, on Oct. 7, directing that they be freed in Washington, D.C. The ruling that the men were not a danger to the United States was a defeat for the White House and was the first to order the freeing of Guantánamo detainees.
After an emergency filing by the Justice Department the next day, an appeals court temporarily stayed the ruling while it considered whether to grant a longer stay.
Clint Williamson, the State Department’s ambassador-at-large for war crimes issues who conducts Guantánamo resettlement talks with other countries, confirmed that he had changed his plans.
“I was scheduled to depart on another round of negotiations early this week,” Mr. Williamson said. “It was impossible to resolve some concerns we had about going forward at the time. As a result I canceled the trip.” He declined to say where he had planned to travel.
A Justice Department spokesman, Dean Boyd, declined to discuss the dispute, saying, “We don’t comment on internal deliberations.”
The temporary stay of Judge Urbina’s ruling had given provided time for renewed diplomatic efforts to resettle the men and to avoid a potential conflict between the judge and the administration.
The appeals court could rule as soon as Friday about whether it will extend the stay on Judge Urbina’s ruling or return the case to him. The State Department had been under great pressure inside the administration to find a country willing to accept the Uighurs.
Lawyers for the Uighurs, who were in Afghanistan in 2001, said the men would be persecuted if they were returned to China. The administration agreed that it would not send them there. But it said that since transferring 5 Uighur detainees to Albania in 2006, it had been unable to persuade governments to accept the other 17.
Diplomats say that many governments fear reprisal by China, which considers Uighur separatist groups terrorists.
Lawyers for the men have said that the Justice Department exaggerated its claims against the men in its legal arguments.
The people who have been briefed on the dispute said that the State Department also regarded the language describing the men as inflammatory and impossible to prove.
They said the department viewed efforts to find a country willing to accept the detainees as futile as long as the Justice Department argued that the men were too dangerous to be admitted into the United States.
The Uighur case has become a focus of many critics of the Guantánamo detention center. Jennifer Daskal, a counterterrorism specialist at Human Rights Watch, said that some administration officials appeared determined to block their release.
“The true fear,” Ms. Daskal said, “is not that they will pose a security threat, but that they will serve as living reminders of the administration’s mistakes in setting up Guantánamo.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/washington/16gitmo.html?_r=1&ref=us&oref=slogin

Unregistered
16-10-08, 02:29
Hormetlik Rushan,

Sizge koptin-kop rexmet! elwette siz eytqandek, qerindashlirimiz qoyup berilgendin kiyin, qandaq teriplisek boliweridu.

Sizge amanliq hem utuq tileymen.

Unregistered
16-10-08, 06:19
Mohterem muteppekkurlirimiz, bayanatchilirimiz, muxbirlirimiz we qerindashlirimiz,

Otken heftiki 7-oktebir rayonluq sotta sotchi Urbinaning qararidin keyin, heqiqetenmu putun dunya uyghurliri uchun bayram tentenesi boldi. Bu 17 qerindishimizning ghelibisini tebriklendi. Ular toghrisida nurghunlighan teripleshler yezildi. Nurghunlighan medhiyeler we bahalashlar boldi. Bu 17 qerindashqa heqiqetenmu putkul dunya uyghurliri qanche rexmet eytsaq, maxtisaq erziydu. Biraq bu ghelibe tel-tokus bolsun. Ularni maxtiduq dep, tizrek erkinlikke chiqish porsetini yiraqlashturmayli. Ular heqiqi erkinlikke erishkendin keyin qandaq namlarda, qandaq sherhiyelep, qandaq maxtisaq bolidu. Shu chaghda qanghuche qilsaqmu kechikken bolmaymiz. Ular awal erkinlikke chiqsun. Suni korup, su boyigha kelip andin ayighimizni salayli.

Guwantanamodiki 17 qerindishimiz texi GTMOda. Ularni texi Amerika yaki birer bixeter dolet qobul qilghini yoq. Ular texi aile-tewabatliri bilen (7 yildin beri) birer qetimmu telpunda awazini anglashqini yoq. Ular 7 yildin beri turmide. 7 yildin beri ailisidikiliri oz oghlining texiche hayat ikenligini bilmeydighanliri bar. 7 yildin beri ata-anisi bilen alaqe qilip, ozlirining saq-salamet yaki hayat-mamatlighini ata-anisigha bildurmigenliri bar (hazirmu gerche qol-putliri kishenliniglik emes yaki tebii kun ve havadinmu behriman bolalmasliqtek sharaittin kop yaxshi bolghan orunda bolsimu yenila nezerbent astida, yenila GTMOda, yenila herbining qorali ve lagiri astida nezerbentte). Ularning hazirqi ehwalini chushineyli qerindashlar.

Bugun NY waqti gezitide ilan qilin’ghan tovendiki maqalide “Hukumet ichide bu 17 kishining xeterlik kishiler ikenligi toghriliq munazireliri seveplik, tashqi ishlar ministirligining ular uchun bixeter dolet izdesh sepiri emeldin qalduruldi.” dep yezilghan.

Bu 17 qerindishimiz saq-salamet QOYUP BERILGEN’GE QEDER, erkinlikke erishkenge qeder, men towenchilik bilen her biringlardin iltija qilimenki, towendikidek geplerni oz hissiyatimiz bilen qilishqa bekmu diqqet qilghan bolsaq.

Bu towendikidek sozler heqiqet emes. Bundaq sozler ularni julalashturup teripligenlik emes belki ularning erkinlikke eririshini aylap-aylap uzartiwetishi mumkin. Ulargha yaxshi niyitimiz bilen, mihir-muhebbet korsettuq, hormet bildurduq dep, “dushmenlik” qilghanliq bolup qalmisun.

Ularmu sizdek, bizdek erkin hayatqa tizrek erishsun!

1. GTMO diki 17 qerindashning “bir qismi” hergizmu “Sh.Turkistan Islam Herkiti” teshkilatining ezaliri emes. Xitayning shundaq qara chaplighinidin bashqa metbuatlarda undaq dep baqmighan.

2. Ular musteqqiliq jengchiliri emes. Xitayning zulumigha chidimay heq-hoquq izdep, wetinini tashlap chiqip ketken 17 Uyghur yigiti xalas.

3. Ularning idologiyesi hichqandaq teshkilatlargha beqindi emes. Ularni SH.T.I.H bilen chatmayli, munasiwetleshturmeyli. Birge tehlil qilishmayli.

4. Ular 6 yerim yildin beri GTMO da, onlap-yuzlep qilin’ghan soraqlarda ozlirining kim ikenligini, Afghanistanda nime qilghanlighini rastchilliq bilen hukumetke eytip bolghan. Hukumet, herbimu oz tekshurushlirini elip berip ularning digenlirini muqimlashturup-ispatlap bolghan. Shunga ularni "dushmen jengchisi emes" dep qarar qildi. Heqiqetni bilmigen kishilerning hayajanda, shadlighida qilghan turluk sozliri bilen, ulargha her xil artuqche nersiler chaplinip qalmisun.

5. Ularni Amerikadiki 20 nechche advukat 2 yildin artuq vaqitlirini serip qilip, Amerikadiki oxshimighan sotlarda devasini elip bardi. Shu uzun jeryanlarda, advukatlar u yerdiki balilarning ozliri bilen sozliship, sotmu ozliri izdinip, tetqiq qilip, ispat-pakitlirini korup, axiri “hichqandaq teshkilatlar bilen alaqisi yoq” dep hoqum chiqardi.

Birqanche kishilirimizning qilghan tehlilliri, analizliri bilen, sozliri bilen 6 yerim yildin beri bigunah yetivatqan balilargha yene uwal bolmisun!

Eger sozum eghir ketken bolsa kechurum soraymen biraq bu mesilining novette qanchiliq jiddi ikenligini perez qilalishinglarni otunup soraymen!

Diqqitinglargha kop rexmet!

Hormet bilen,
Rushan Abbas


Release of 17 Guantánamo Detainees Sputters as Officials Debate the Risk
by William Glaberson
Published: October 15, 2008
An urgent effort by the Bush administration to find a country willing to accept 17 detainees held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has stalled because of a bitter dispute inside the government about whether the men are dangerous.
The administration stepped up its search for a new home for the detainees, members of the Uighur Muslim minority in western China, after a federal judge ordered them to be released inside the United States a week ago.
But because of the dispute within the administration, an American ambassador canceled a trip for international negotiations about the fate of the 17 men that had been scheduled to begin Monday.
People briefed on the issue said that the State Department, which is charged with trying to resettle Guantánamo detainees by coaxing other countries to accept them, argued that the Justice Department compromised diplomatic efforts with a court filing Friday that asserted that the Uighurs should not be released inside the United States. The filing described them as “a danger to the public” and as men who had been trained in insurrection.
“Based on what they were saying in the brief, it made it impossible to conduct negotiations,” said an administration official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he had not been authorized to discuss the dispute.
The State Department has often been at odds with the Justice Department and the Pentagon over detainee issues, at times arguing that those agencies do not take sufficient account of Guantánamo’s impact on international relations.
The Uighur detainees have been at the center of a contentious legal confrontation that drew wide attention with a ruling from Judge Ricardo M. Urbina, on Oct. 7, directing that they be freed in Washington, D.C. The ruling that the men were not a danger to the United States was a defeat for the White House and was the first to order the freeing of Guantánamo detainees.
After an emergency filing by the Justice Department the next day, an appeals court temporarily stayed the ruling while it considered whether to grant a longer stay.
Clint Williamson, the State Department’s ambassador-at-large for war crimes issues who conducts Guantánamo resettlement talks with other countries, confirmed that he had changed his plans.
“I was scheduled to depart on another round of negotiations early this week,” Mr. Williamson said. “It was impossible to resolve some concerns we had about going forward at the time. As a result I canceled the trip.” He declined to say where he had planned to travel.
A Justice Department spokesman, Dean Boyd, declined to discuss the dispute, saying, “We don’t comment on internal deliberations.”
The temporary stay of Judge Urbina’s ruling had given provided time for renewed diplomatic efforts to resettle the men and to avoid a potential conflict between the judge and the administration.
The appeals court could rule as soon as Friday about whether it will extend the stay on Judge Urbina’s ruling or return the case to him. The State Department had been under great pressure inside the administration to find a country willing to accept the Uighurs.
Lawyers for the Uighurs, who were in Afghanistan in 2001, said the men would be persecuted if they were returned to China. The administration agreed that it would not send them there. But it said that since transferring 5 Uighur detainees to Albania in 2006, it had been unable to persuade governments to accept the other 17.
Diplomats say that many governments fear reprisal by China, which considers Uighur separatist groups terrorists.
Lawyers for the men have said that the Justice Department exaggerated its claims against the men in its legal arguments.
The people who have been briefed on the dispute said that the State Department also regarded the language describing the men as inflammatory and impossible to prove.
They said the department viewed efforts to find a country willing to accept the detainees as futile as long as the Justice Department argued that the men were too dangerous to be admitted into the United States.
The Uighur case has become a focus of many critics of the Guantánamo detention center. Jennifer Daskal, a counterterrorism specialist at Human Rights Watch, said that some administration officials appeared determined to block their release.
“The true fear,” Ms. Daskal said, “is not that they will pose a security threat, but that they will serve as living reminders of the administration’s mistakes in setting up Guantánamo.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/washington/16gitmo.html?_r=1&ref=us&oref=slogin


1. GTMO diki 17 qerindashning “bir qismi” hergizmu “Sh.Turkistan Islam Herkiti” teshkilatining ezaliri emes. Xitayning shundaq qara chaplighinidin bashqa metbuatlarda undaq dep baqmighan.

2. Ular musteqqiliq jengchiliri emes. Xitayning zulumigha chidimay heq-hoquq izdep, wetinini tashlap chiqip ketken 17 Uyghur yigiti xalas.

3. Ularning idologiyesi hichqandaq teshkilatlargha beqindi emes. Ularni SH.T.I.H bilen chatmayli, munasiwetleshturmeyli. Birge tehlil qilishmayli.

qedirlik roshen xanim, undaqta bular kim ? amerika teripidin naheq tutulghan we siz eytqandek musteqilliq jengchisi bolush uyaqta tursun, hetta hech bir idilogiyege mensup bolmighan bu 23 uyghurning yene amerika teripidin qoyup berilishi biz uchun netijimu ? bunung milliy herikitimizge qandaq paydisi bar ? Xitay we Amerika bu uyghurlarni 7 yildin buyan suyistimal qilip keldi, ozlirining dowlet menpeeti uchun paydilinip keldi, emdilikte biz qopup bularni, < afghanistangha jigde - qaq satqili chiqip tutulup qalghan > dep teshwiq qilsaq, bunung milliy dawayimizgha we xelqimizge nime paydisi ? xelqimizning kuresh iradisige soghuq su sepken bolmamduq ?

Unregistered
16-10-08, 06:59
1. GTMO diki 17 qerindashning “bir qismi” hergizmu “Sh.Turkistan Islam Herkiti” teshkilatining ezaliri emes. Xitayning shundaq qara chaplighinidin bashqa metbuatlarda undaq dep baqmighan.

2. Ular musteqqiliq jengchiliri emes. Xitayning zulumigha chidimay heq-hoquq izdep, wetinini tashlap chiqip ketken 17 Uyghur yigiti xalas.

3. Ularning idologiyesi hichqandaq teshkilatlargha beqindi emes. Ularni SH.T.I.H bilen chatmayli, munasiwetleshturmeyli. Birge tehlil qilishmayli.

qedirlik roshen xanim, undaqta bular kim ? amerika teripidin naheq tutulghan we siz eytqandek musteqilliq jengchisi bolush uyaqta tursun, hetta hech bir idilogiyege mensup bolmighan bu 23 uyghurning yene amerika teripidin qoyup berilishi biz uchun netijimu ? bunung milliy herikitimizge qandaq paydisi bar ? Xitay we Amerika bu uyghurlarni 7 yildin buyan suyistimal qilip keldi, ozlirining dowlet menpeeti uchun paydilinip keldi, emdilikte biz qopup bularni, < afghanistangha jigde - qaq satqili chiqip tutulup qalghan > dep teshwiq qilsaq, bunung milliy dawayimizgha we xelqimizge nime paydisi ? xelqimizning kuresh iradisige soghuq su sepken bolmamduq ?

"Ular heqiqi erkinlikke erishkendin keyin qandaq namlarda, qandaq sherhiyelep, qandaq maxtisaq bolidu."

yuqurdiki 5 nuqta melum sewep uchun yezilghan iken. eger ular uchun paydiliq bolsa hazir shundaq dep turayli. Ularning kim ikenligini ular erkin dunyagha chiqqandin kiyin bahalisaq bolidu. xelqimizning kuresh iradisi uchun ularni qurban qilish toghra emes. yaki bolmisa siz digendek hazir milliy dawayimizni dep ularni aghzimizgha kelgenni deyli ular yene 7 yil artuq yatsun.

Unregistered
16-10-08, 09:34
qedirlik roshen xanim, undaqta bular kim ? amerika teripidin naheq tutulghan we siz eytqandek musteqilliq jengchisi bolush uyaqta tursun, hetta hech bir idilogiyege mensup bolmighan bu 23 uyghurning yene amerika teripidin qoyup berilishi biz uchun netijimu ? bunung milliy herikitimizge qandaq paydisi bar ? Xitay we Amerika bu uyghurlarni 7 yildin buyan suyistimal qilip keldi, ozlirining dowlet menpeeti uchun paydilinip keldi, emdilikte biz qopup bularni, < afghanistangha jigde - qaq satqili chiqip tutulup qalghan > dep teshwiq qilsaq, bunung milliy dawayimizgha we xelqimizge nime paydisi ? xelqimizning kuresh iradisige soghuq su sepken bolmamduq ?

Hormetlik ependim,

Sozliringizni chusinimen ve sizningmu mening nime dimekchi ikenligimni chushinishingizni soraymen.

Men bu sualingizning javavini GTMO diki 17 qerindishimiz qoyup berilgendin keyin berey.

7 yilliq soraqta ular ozlirini kim dep tonushturghan bolsa, sot ularni kim dep ilan qilghan bolsa ular shu kishiler.....

Hormet bilen,
Rushan

Unregistered
16-10-08, 10:02
qedirlik roshen xanim, undaqta bular kim ? amerika teripidin naheq tutulghan we siz eytqandek musteqilliq jengchisi bolush uyaqta tursun, hetta hech bir idilogiyege mensup bolmighan bu 23 uyghurning yene amerika teripidin qoyup berilishi biz uchun netijimu ? bunung milliy herikitimizge qandaq paydisi bar ? Xitay we Amerika bu uyghurlarni 7 yildin buyan suyistimal qilip keldi, ozlirining dowlet menpeeti uchun paydilinip keldi, emdilikte biz qopup bularni, < afghanistangha jigde - qaq satqili chiqip tutulup qalghan > dep teshwiq qilsaq, bunung milliy dawayimizgha we xelqimizge nime paydisi ? xelqimizning kuresh iradisige soghuq su sepken bolmamduq ?[/QUOTE]


Siz Roshenning Yazgan murajitini yene bir ketim okung.
Helkke payda elip kelish uqun, o insanlar turmidin erkin dunyaga qikishi kerek.
Ozingizni ularning orniga koyup tehlil kilip beking. Roshen sizge nahayti yahshi jewap beriptu: "Ularni Amerika hokumiti nime dise shu".

Tekrarlaymen: sizning milli dewayingizga payda ekilish uqun, ular turmidin qikishi kerek eger siz uqun payda - ziyan birinqi orunda tursa.

Unregistered
16-10-08, 10:17
Hormetlik Rushan,

Sizge koptin-kop rexmet! elwette siz eytqandek, qerindashlirimiz qoyup berilgendin kiyin, qandaq teriplisek boliweridu.

Sizge amanliq hem utuq tileymen.

pikringizge hormet qilimen, chunki siz ularning ehwalini hemmimizdin obdan bilisiz, men peqetla idiyemdin otmigen bezi mesililerni otturigha qoyup ottum, toghra chushengeysiz !

Rushan Abbas
16-10-08, 13:28
Kallimizdin otmeydighan mesililer nurghun. Emma toghra chushinip qobul korgininglargha rexmet.

Eger mumkin bolsa u yerdiki balilargha qisqa salam xet yezinglar. Ulargha vetendashlirining salamliri ve righbetlendurushliri hajet bolupmu hazirqi sharaitta. Eger xet yezishni xalaydighanlar bolsa, yezip yuklenme (attachment) shekilde qilmay, adettiki email qilip manga ivetip bersenglar, men yetkuzup berimen (email adrisim rushan614@gmail.com). Xet qisqa ve hichqandaq siyasi mezmunsiz bolsun. Ular bilen qilin'ghan xet muamililer herbining tekshurushidin otup andin ulargha tapshurulidu.

Tovende misalgha bir Uyghur qerindashning otken yili ulargha yazghan xetini ve uning astidiki En'gilische xet bolsa Amerikidiki bir guruppa jamaetning bezi balilargha yazghan xetini chaplap qoydum. Ornek qilip ishlitersiler.

Abdulnasir numuri 278
Abdusabur numuri 275
Abdusamet numuri 295
Edxem Memet numuri 102
Xammad numuri 328
Huzayfa Perhat numuri 320
Jalal Jalalidin numuri 285
Xalid numuri 280
Sabir Osman numuri 282
Adil Nuri numuri 584
Abdulrazaq numuri 219
Exmed Tursun numuri 201
Abdulghappar numuri 281
Enwer Hesen numuri 250
Dawud Abdurehim numuri 289
Erkin Maxmut numuri 103
Bextiyar maxmut numuri 277


Esssalamu elleykum iziz qirindashlirim

Yaxshimusiler? men silerni kop esleymen. silerning paranginglarni, serguzeshtiliringlarni dostlirim, sepdashlirim we yar baraderlirim bilen kop qilishimen. Shundaqla silerdiki cheksiz sebir, qanaet we taqetlerge qayilliq bilen birge hemde heyranmen. menmu silerge oxshashla Janabi Allahning rehmitidin hichqachan umutsiz bolghan emesmen.

Shuni arzu qilimenki, men xudayim buyrisa pat yiqinda siler bilen yuz korushup, birge olturup birer piyale chay ichimen.

Silerge salametlik, kuchlik irade tilep

hormet bilen

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Amnesty International • Group 15 • Concord
www.aigroup15.org (http://www.aigroup15.org/)

December 7, 2007


Abdunassir (ISN No. 278)
Abdusabour (ISN No. 275)
Abdusamet (ISN No. 295)
Edham Mamet (ISN No. 102)
Hammad (ISN No. 328)
Huzaifa Parhat (ISN No. 320)
Jalal Jalaldin (ISN No. 285)
Khalid (ISN No. 280)
Sabir Osman (ISN No. 282)


We send our greetings and warmest wishes to you. We know that you have been at Guantanamo now for a very long time, almost six years. We deeply regret the actions of our government that have deprived you of your freedom and denied you the most basic access to justice.

You should know that you are not forgotten. Many people care deeply and are working for your release. We also deplore the inhumane conditions of your detention including solitary confinement, and are actively seeking improvements through members of Congress.

Happy Qurban Eid.

From the members of Amnesty International Group 15

Unregistered
16-10-08, 20:39
Rushan, bu teshebusingizni qollaymen. Bashqilarning gep-sozliri u ballarning teqdirige tesir korsitishidin ensirep emes belki u ballarni tonimaydighan ademlerning tesewurigha tayinip turup ular toghruluq qalaymiqan sozlesh hoquqi yoq dep qarighinim uchun. Menmu aldinqi hepte bu heqte qalaymiqan gep qilmayli dep bir nerse yazghan idim. Mining bu meydanda bolghan geplerning ularning teqdirige tesir yetkuzishidin ensirimesligimning sewebi bizning ular toghruluq bulgenlirimizning hemmisi Amerika metbuatlirida elan qilinghan uchurlardin kelgen. Mining tesiratimda bu sorinda gep qiliwatqan Uyghurdin hechkim u ballarni tonimaydu, ularning kim bolghanlighini, nede turup nime qilghanlighini bulmeydu. Ularni bulidighanlar u ballarni 7 yildin biri tutup turiwatqan we tekshurgen Amerika hokimitidur. Ularni tonimaydighan birlirining ular ustidin nime diyishi u ballarning kim bolghanlighini emes belki shu gepni qilghuchilarning kim bolghanlighini ispatlaydu. Shunga undaq sozler ularning teqdirining qandaq bolishigha tesir yetkuzmesligi kirek hem yetkuzelmeydu. Emma Guantanamoda normal qanun, eqelli sawat digen nersiler anche inawetke elinmaydighan yerimu yoq emes. Likin Amerika hokimiti herqanche bolsimu ularni korup baqmighan, tonimaydighan birlirining geplirige asasen u ballarning teqdirige tesir korsitidighan qararlarni chiqirip olturghudek hamaqet yaki ushshuq emestu dep oylaymen.

Bu meydanda ularni erkinlik jengchisi digenlerni korgentim, emma ularni ETIM gha chatqanlarni peqet hittay hokimitining ahbarat elanliridila korgenkenmen. Biraq men buyerde yezilghan hemme nersini oqup kitelmeymen, belkim kormey qalghan bolishimmu mumkin. Likin shundaq bolghandimu buyerge her-hil her yangza ademler hetta hittay jasuslirimu kiridu we her hil gherezler bilen bir nerse yazidu. Erkinlik jengchisi digenlerni chushinish qiyin emes, chunki Amerikining metbuatlirida ularning arisida qural-yaraq ishlitishni ugengenler bar diyilgen. Bezi Uyghurlarning bu uchurgha asasen ularni erkinlik jengchisi dep oylishi tebi'i. Hem yene "Erkinlik jengchisi' digen sozning eniqlimisi eniq bolmighachqa ohshimighan ademlerning u sozni ishlitishke ohshimighan sewepliri bolishi mumkin, meslen beziler ularning hittayning zulumidin qachimiz dep shunche japalarni beshidin kechurgenligidin shundaq diyishimu mumkin. Ularning beshigha kelgen kunler chet'elde yashawatqan kop sandiki Uyghurlarning beshigha kilishi mumkin idi, chunki nurghun Uyghurlar huddi ulardek hoshna dowletler arqiliq Gherp ellirige chiqqan. Ular hata waqitta hata yerde bolup qalghini uchunla bikardin-bikar 7 yil qamaqta yatti. Shunga Uyghurlarning ulargha bolghan yuquri hissidashlighi hetta ularni qehrimanlashturishi toghra chushengili bolidighan hadise.

Qisqisi, men bu meydanda korgen nersilerning hemmisi metbuatlarda elan qilinghan melumatlargha asaslanghan koz qarashlarken. Likin sizning hazir gep qilmay ular qoyup berilgendin kiyin nime disenglar meyli digningizdin huddi biz ular usitide bashqilar uqmaydighan, yushirishqa tigishlik geplirimiz bardek bir tesir biridiken. Siz obdan bulisiz, Amerika hokimiti ularni bizdin yahshi bulidu, emma biz bulmeymiz. Gerche ular turmide yetishni ozliri talliwalmighan bolsimu ularning banasida Uyghur dawasi dunyagha tonulghini uchun bezillirimiz ularni mahtiduq, bummu elwette ularning wetendashlar arisidiki abroyini kotirish arqiliq ular qoyup berilgende wetendashlarning ulargha bolghan yardimini qolgha kelturishte muhim rol oynaydu. Nimila bolsun, bashqilarning emliyet emes belki hissiyat, tesewurlirigha tayinip ular toghriliq bir nerse yazmaslighigha teshebbus qilghiningizni qollaymen.

Hazir bizning ensireshke tigishlik meslimiz u ballarni adem anglap baqmighan arallargha tashlap qoyushning aldini elish. Biraq bugunki NYT maqalisidin qarighanda hokimetning u pilanimu emelge ashmaydighandek turidu. Likin ular paliyetchilerning aldini tosush uchun oyun oyanawatamdu kim bulidu. Guantanamo mesliside ulargha men ishenmes boldum.

Unregistered
17-10-08, 00:27
Roshen xanim,

Siz bu hawarni daslapta ilan kilganda ixning ong taturni oylixiprak ilan kilsingiz bu yarda yukirdikki gaplarni yizip yurmaytingiz. Amdi ix murakkaplaxkanda baxkilarni ayipligginingz kizikku.

Siz ularning bizla tarpiddin " arkinlik jangqillirri' dap atilixdin korkup katmang. Amirka ularning kimlikni obdan bilgandak bizningmu ularni nima dap ataydiganlikimizni obdan bildu. Yanni biz tax saniguqa ula kum sanaydu.

Unregistered
17-10-08, 02:13
Roshen xanim,

Siz bu hawarni daslapta ilan kilganda ixning ong taturni oylixiprak ilan kilsingiz bu yarda yukirdikki gaplarni yizip yurmaytingiz. Amdi ix murakkaplaxkanda baxkilarni ayipligginingz kizikku.

Siz ularning bizla tarpiddin " arkinlik jangqillirri' dap atilixdin korkup katmang. Amirka ularning kimlikni obdan bilgandak bizningmu ularni nima dap ataydiganlikimizni obdan bildu. Yanni biz tax saniguqa ula kum sanaydu.

Siz Rushan xanimning ong teturini oylashmay xewer ilan qilghinini qachan, qayerde korgentingiz?

yalghan gep qilip pitne-pasat tarqitiwersingiz, sizge maqul dep ishiniweridighan zamanmu hazir?

guantanamodiki balilar erkinlikke chiqsun, shu waqtida qandaq teripleshni, sizge biz ugitimiz. quruq gep qilip nimige erishmekchidursiz?

Biz-Uyghur
17-10-08, 04:35
Roshen Hanim . sizning pikringizni tamamen qollaymen . siz shu lagirda yitiwatqan qirindashlirimiz uchun kopligen hizmetlerni halis qildingiz qilip kilwatisiz . Allah siz uchun kop ejir bersun . bezi doslarning gepning bash ahirini oylashmay yazghanliri ular uchun heqiqeten ziyanliq . shunga sizning bergen teklipliringiz orunluq . allah buyrusa shu 17 qirindashlirimiz nusretke irishe . kop dua qilayli allah asanlik bire.
sizge salametlik hatirjemlik tileymen .

Unregistered
17-10-08, 08:14
Rushan, bu teshebusingizni qollaymen. Bashqilarning gep-sozliri u ballarning teqdirige tesir korsitishidin ensirep emes belki u ballarni tonimaydighan ademlerning tesewurigha tayinip turup ular toghruluq qalaymiqan sozlesh hoquqi yoq dep qarighinim uchun. Menmu aldinqi hepte bu heqte qalaymiqan gep qilmayli dep bir nerse yazghan idim. Mining bu meydanda bolghan geplerning ularning teqdirige tesir yetkuzishidin ensirimesligimning sewebi bizning ular toghruluq bulgenlirimizning hemmisi Amerika metbuatlirida elan qilinghan uchurlardin kelgen. Mining tesiratimda bu sorinda gep qiliwatqan Uyghurdin hechkim u ballarni tonimaydu, ularning kim bolghanlighini, nede turup nime qilghanlighini bulmeydu. Ularni bulidighanlar u ballarni 7 yildin biri tutup turiwatqan we tekshurgen Amerika hokimitidur. Ularni tonimaydighan birlirining ular ustidin nime diyishi u ballarning kim bolghanlighini emes belki shu gepni qilghuchilarning kim bolghanlighini ispatlaydu. Shunga undaq sozler ularning teqdirining qandaq bolishigha tesir yetkuzmesligi kirek hem yetkuzelmeydu. Emma Guantanamoda normal qanun, eqelli sawat digen nersiler anche inawetke elinmaydighan yerimu yoq emes. Likin Amerika hokimiti herqanche bolsimu ularni korup baqmighan, tonimaydighan birlirining geplirige asasen u ballarning teqdirige tesir korsitidighan qararlarni chiqirip olturghudek hamaqet yaki ushshuq emestu dep oylaymen.

Bu meydanda ularni erkinlik jengchisi digenlerni korgentim, emma ularni ETIM gha chatqanlarni peqet hittay hokimitining ahbarat elanliridila korgenkenmen. Biraq men buyerde yezilghan hemme nersini oqup kitelmeymen, belkim kormey qalghan bolishimmu mumkin. Likin shundaq bolghandimu buyerge her-hil her yangza ademler hetta hittay jasuslirimu kiridu we her hil gherezler bilen bir nerse yazidu. Erkinlik jengchisi digenlerni chushinish qiyin emes, chunki Amerikining metbuatlirida ularning arisida qural-yaraq ishlitishni ugengenler bar diyilgen. Bezi Uyghurlarning bu uchurgha asasen ularni erkinlik jengchisi dep oylishi tebi'i. Hem yene "Erkinlik jengchisi' digen sozning eniqlimisi eniq bolmighachqa ohshimighan ademlerning u sozni ishlitishke ohshimighan sewepliri bolishi mumkin, meslen beziler ularning hittayning zulumidin qachimiz dep shunche japalarni beshidin kechurgenligidin shundaq diyishimu mumkin. Ularning beshigha kelgen kunler chet'elde yashawatqan kop sandiki Uyghurlarning beshigha kilishi mumkin idi, chunki nurghun Uyghurlar huddi ulardek hoshna dowletler arqiliq Gherp ellirige chiqqan. Ular hata waqitta hata yerde bolup qalghini uchunla bikardin-bikar 7 yil qamaqta yatti. Shunga Uyghurlarning ulargha bolghan yuquri hissidashlighi hetta ularni qehrimanlashturishi toghra chushengili bolidighan hadise.

Qisqisi, men bu meydanda korgen nersilerning hemmisi metbuatlarda elan qilinghan melumatlargha asaslanghan koz qarashlarken. Likin sizning hazir gep qilmay ular qoyup berilgendin kiyin nime disenglar meyli digningizdin huddi biz ular usitide bashqilar uqmaydighan, yushirishqa tigishlik geplirimiz bardek bir tesir biridiken. Siz obdan bulisiz, Amerika hokimiti ularni bizdin yahshi bulidu, emma biz bulmeymiz. Gerche ular turmide yetishni ozliri talliwalmighan bolsimu ularning banasida Uyghur dawasi dunyagha tonulghini uchun bezillirimiz ularni mahtiduq, bummu elwette ularning wetendashlar arisidiki abroyini kotirish arqiliq ular qoyup berilgende wetendashlarning ulargha bolghan yardimini qolgha kelturishte muhim rol oynaydu. Nimila bolsun, bashqilarning emliyet emes belki hissiyat, tesewurlirigha tayinip ular toghriliq bir nerse yazmaslighigha teshebbus qilghiningizni qollaymen.

Hazir bizning ensireshke tigishlik meslimiz u ballarni adem anglap baqmighan arallargha tashlap qoyushning aldini elish. Biraq bugunki NYT maqalisidin qarighanda hokimetning u pilanimu emelge ashmaydighandek turidu. Likin ular paliyetchilerning aldini tosush uchun oyun oyanawatamdu kim bulidu. Guantanamo mesliside ulargha men ishenmes boldum.


sizning pikringizni kollaymen, bu meydandimu hazir daim bu meydangha kirip iq-puxughughini ghiwetlirni kiliwaldighan 2-3 ademdin baxka adem kirmeydighu dep oylaymen. xunga ensirexning hixkandak zoruruyiti bolmisa kirek. bu 2-3 ademde ularni quxineligudek, ular toghurluk bir nerse yazalighudek angmu, quxenqimu yok.

Unregistered
17-10-08, 21:09
Bizning adamlirimizning kopunqisi intayin dot - waziyatti tahlil kilix, ozining ahwalini bilix axu dolatning kanun tuzumliri wa puhralirining ahwalini kuzutux jahatta azrakmu bilim yok bolghanlighi uqun Roshan Hanim axularning axkara yezip bu kapaklargha nima diyixni ugatkan.

Man watandiki qaghda bir top heli bilimlik dap sanilidighan kixilar bilan ular gharip dolatlirida panalik tilax toghrisidiki soallirigha jawap beriwatkanda bir naqqaylan hitayni olturiwatkan rasimlarga quxup ularni ap qikip panalik tilaydighanlighini eytkan idi.

Man turiwatkan bu dolattimu nurghun kixilar ozlirining kandak kalghanlighini azrakmu bilmaydu. Ular man Hitaygha oq bolghanlighim uqun kep kaldim dap karaydu.

Bizdiki sawiya mana muxunqilik. Baxlanghuqni ongxap putturmigan 2-3 surini yadliwalghan bazi kixilar hatta jamiyatlarga rais bolup yuridu.

Mana muxundak ahwalda Rushan Hanimgha ohxax watandaxlirimiz azrak waz eytmisak bu millatning hali nima bolar?

Unregistered
19-10-08, 05:45
Siz Rushan xanimning ong teturini oylashmay xewer ilan qilghinini qachan, qayerde korgentingiz?

yalghan gep qilip pitne-pasat tarqitiwersingiz, sizge maqul dep ishiniweridighan zamanmu hazir?

guantanamodiki balilar erkinlikke chiqsun, shu waqtida qandaq teripleshni, sizge biz ugitimiz. quruq gep qilip nimige erishmekchidursiz?

Towa ! G'tmodiki balilarni erkinlike chiqandin kiyin nime dep teripliwalsang boliweridu sen uchun (eger senmu xu yerge kirip qelixtin qorqmisang!), biraq hazirqi mesile shu balilarni qandaq qilip erkinlike echiqish. Eger bir eqli bar Uyghur bolsang bu yerde qerindishimz Roshenning yolluq pikirini burmilap waqit israp qilmighin.

G'tmodiki balilarmu sanga ohxax yahxi turmux kechursem dep chetke chiqan addi balilar, bezilliri Islam dinini destek qiliwalghan pakistanliq aldamchilargha aldinip yem bulup ketken. Eger sen hazir ularni hisyatingha tayinip "millitimizning undaq-bundaqchilliri...' dep atwialsang, bulargha ixinidighan we zadi muxundaq atalghuni kutup turiwatqanlar peqet peqet duxmenlirimiz (mining hemde sining, eger Uyghur bolsang) Beijing dairliri, halas !

Unregistered
19-10-08, 13:06
Towa ! G'tmodiki balilarni erkinlike chiqandin kiyin nime dep teripliwalsang boliweridu sen uchun (eger senmu xu yerge kirip qelixtin qorqmisang!), biraq hazirqi mesile shu balilarni qandaq qilip erkinlike echiqish. Eger bir eqli bar Uyghur bolsang bu yerde qerindishimz Roshenning yolluq pikirini burmilap waqit israp qilmighin.

G'tmodiki balilarmu sanga ohxax yahxi turmux kechursem dep chetke chiqan addi balilar, bezilliri Islam dinini destek qiliwalghan pakistanliq aldamchilargha aldinip yem bulup ketken. Eger sen hazir ularni hisyatingha tayinip "millitimizning undaq-bundaqchilliri...' dep atwialsang, bulargha ixinidighan we zadi muxundaq atalghuni kutup turiwatqanlar peqet peqet duxmenlirimiz (mining hemde sining, eger Uyghur bolsang) Beijing dairliri, halas !

hey qapaq kalla, kimge yeziwatisen xetingni?

Unregistered
20-10-08, 13:36
Tordax, bunchiwala achighlinip ketmigin. Eger qapaq kalla bolsam sanga qarxi gep qilghan bolattim. Eslide buni 3-qewettiki (post no. 3) tordaxqa yazghan idim, qandaqtur sining yazghiningha jawaben yizilghandek chaplinip qaptu, kechurgin.


hey qapaq kalla, kimge yeziwatisen xetingni?

Unregistered
20-10-08, 14:13
"Ular heqiqi erkinlikke erishkendin keyin qandaq namlarda, qandaq sherhiyelep, qandaq maxtisaq bolidu."

yuqurdiki 5 nuqta melum sewep uchun yezilghan iken. eger ular uchun paydiliq bolsa hazir shundaq dep turayli. Ularning kim ikenligini ular erkin dunyagha chiqqandin kiyin bahalisaq bolidu. xelqimizning kuresh iradisi uchun ularni qurban qilish toghra emes. yaki bolmisa siz digendek hazir milliy dawayimizni dep ularni aghzimizgha kelgenni deyli ular yene 7 yil artuq yatsun.

hormetlik Roxan ager tarihni waraqlap korsingiz bu qiliq bir ahmaqliq boludu. masilan mandilaning tarihini aslang..oz wahtida mandilamu del muxandaq tallaxqa duchkalgenda oz pikrida (haqqaniatta) ching turghan.

Unregistered
20-10-08, 14:55
Sozingizge rehmet!

GTMO diki balilarning oz pikri (heqiqeti) men digendek. Ular birer teshkilatqa eza bolup kirgen emes yaki jeng qilip tutulghan emes. Shunga ularni bilmigen, kormigen, tonimighan kishilerning bashqiche bahalashliri ular uchun ziyanliq.

Meningche, bizning hazir eger ashu yigitlirimizge qilalaydighan emili ishimiz bolsa, Turdi Huja ependi bu tor beride yazghandek oz doletlirimizdiki Amerika elchixanelirige yaki Amerika hukumetlirige ular uchun xet yazayli. Mumkin bolsa ashu GTMO diki yigitlerge addi salam yollap xet yazayli.

Men qerindashlarning xet yezishini iltija qilip hettaki ornek xetlerning nusxisini bu bette qoyup qoysam, bir heftidin beri aran ikki xanimdin ulargha iwetip berish uchun xet keldi. Ulargha yollap berdim.

Mezmunsiz we ehmiyetsiz ishlar uchun nurghun vaqitlar serip bolidu. Ashu qerindashliringlar 7 yildin beri sirtqi dunya bilen alaqisi uzulgen chaghlarda, ularni yad etivatqan uyghur berader/hemshireliridin birer parche xet alsa intayin xursen bolishatti elbette!

Hormet bilen,
Rushan



hormetlik Roxan ager tarihni waraqlap korsingiz bu qiliq bir ahmaqliq boludu. masilan mandilaning tarihini aslang..oz wahtida mandilamu del muxandaq tallaxqa duchkalgenda oz pikrida (haqqaniatta) ching turghan.

Unregistered
20-10-08, 15:29
Sozingizge rehmet!

GTMO diki balilarning oz pikri (heqiqeti) men digendek. Ular birer teshkilatqa eza bolup kirgen emes yaki jeng qilip tutulghan emes. Shunga ularni bilmigen, kormigen, tonimighan kishilerning bashqiche bahalashliri ular uchun ziyanliq.

Meningche, bizning hazir eger ashu yigitlirimizge qilalaydighan emili ishimiz bolsa, Turdi Huja ependi bu tor beride yazghandek oz doletlirimizdiki Amerika elchixanelirige yaki Amerika hukumetlirige ular uchun xet yazayli. Mumkin bolsa ashu GTMO diki yigitlerge addi salam yollap xet yazayli.

Men qerindashlarning xet yezishini iltija qilip hettaki ornek xetlerning nusxisini bu bette qoyup qoysam, bir heftidin beri aran ikki xanimdin ulargha iwetip berish uchun xet keldi. Ulargha yollap berdim.

Mezmunsiz we ehmiyetsiz ishlar uchun nurghun vaqitlar serip bolidu. Ashu qerindashliringlar 7 yildin beri sirtqi dunya bilen alaqisi uzulgen chaghlarda, ularni yad etivatqan uyghur berader/hemshireliridin birer parche xet alsa intayin xursen bolishatti elbette!

Hormet bilen,
Rushan


Roshen Abbas hanim bizni bek hijil qildingiz,bizning u yigitlirimizge het yazmaslighimizdiki sebeb peqetla sizning gepingizge binaen ishning esli-weslini bilmigenligimiz uchun u yigitlirimizning ziyinigha bir nerse yezip qoyushtin saqlinishtinla ibaret,

Bolmisa ikki qur yurek sozimizni u yigitlirimizge yezishtin ayaydighan yerde emes,ular shuni bilsunki weten sirtidiki we ichidiki on besh milyon uyghur milliti bu milli qehirmanblirimiz bilen bille,Allah bu milli qehirmanlirimiz bilen bille, eger bir kuni Allah nisip qilip Mekkige kelip qalsa mening ularning hizmetide bolidighanlighimni u yigitlirimizge yetkuzup qoyushingizni sizdin otunimen.


I.M : MEKKE